AdPoints: Enjoy and support GTTP ad-free
Why not the flat yearly thing? I don't know, decided to try something different. Unlike the CB Club, there are no additional benefits.
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Jeff
Webmaster/GTTP, Sillynonsense.com
"We used to hate people, now we just make fun of them. It's more effective that way." - KMFDM, "Dogma"
If he didn't look at it that way, I'd be able to go from CP Place to the CoasterBuzz Forums (or vice-versa) without typing URIs or visiting my home page first. :)
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
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Jeff
Webmaster/GTTP, Sillynonsense.com
"We used to hate people, now we just make fun of them. It's more effective that way." - KMFDM, "Dogma"
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Jeff
Webmaster/GTTP, Sillynonsense.com
"We used to hate people, now we just make fun of them. It's more effective that way." - KMFDM, "Dogma"
I am one of the guilty "crossovers" who do visit and post on CB on occasion, but NOT being an enthusiast (or a hosebreaker Natalie!! ;)) I would much rather be here :)
Rideman-the ONLY good thing I can say about AOL is their "favorites" option, GTTP and CB are the 1st 2 on my list, no URL typing for me, just click on the name of the site.
As for yet another GTTP'er getting nuked, this is Jeff's house, you don't like his rules then he will show you to the door.
Jo
2000 Raptor Crew
Gemini 100 "Survivor"
GTTP Member# 165
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Cowboys dig cowgirls in trucks
Cowgirls dig cowboys in Wranglers! ;)
*** This post was edited by LuvRaptor 7/15/2002 8:29:51 AM ***
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Tommy Penner - Variable X
"You laugh because I'm different. I laugh because you're all the same!"
I have never,ever clicked on any banner of any site I visit since 99.9% of the banners are scams or false advertising anyway, I have never purchased anything from them in the almost 8 years I have been on the net, and of the hundreds of people I know on the net,I can safely say that probably 95% of them never have used banners either. If I want to buy something,I know where to go to get it,I don't need some damn monkey flying across my screen telling me I've won a million dollars if I only activate 25 cell phones for a 35 year contract. I don't know anyone who finds them useful,for the life of me I can't figure how anyone makes money with them anyway unless people just click them by mistake.
I am not forcing anyone to put a website up, if someone can afford to get online,they can pretty much afford a website host these days. Yes,GTTP is a lot nicer than most sites,Jeff spends a lot of time on it, but it's not a business, CP is basically a hobby of Jeffs which he happens to enjoy more than most average people enjoy their hobbies and he chooses to show his love for the Point in the form of this site.
The net was originally founded on principles of free information exchange, unfortunately everyone wants to make a buck these days. I have no clue how much it costs to run this place, with hosting around $5 a month in numerous places it shouldn't be much. If it is really breaking the bank to run the place, perhaps there should be a generic free site and a paid-members only site.If we had to pay a few dollars to kill annoying ads for each site we all visit each day, we would all be living out on the street getting on the net at the library (until they threw us out for stinking up the place).
I love this site and have been around almost since it started years back. Jeff does a great job, don't get me wrong,I am in no way knocking him,I want that to be perfectly clear. I just cannot justify paying to not be annoyed. If it comes down to it, I would pay to be a member of this site if it meant restricted access (user ids,passwords,etc) but paying to not be annoyed,I just can't stomach it.
I didn't realize I couldn't edit my user name once my account was created so I made a new account. Plus, MFRob seems so fitting as I imagine most of you could substitute MF for something other than Millennium Force:)
I write a check to Sprint monthly for $1,245.65 (and it doesn't take into account the server, router, etc.). $5 hosting accounts exist for people post photos of their cats, not attract 6,000 people daily between his "hobby" sites. My sites pass more data in a day than you can store on your hard drive.
"The net was originally founded on principles of free information exchange"
No, the Net was founded as a government-funded project to network computers in such a way that if one route was blown away by a nuclear explosion the network would still function. Shortly thereafter universities used it to exchange information, but it wasn't free then either. It was paid for by government grants and tuition. When it went commercial, content providers still had to pay for it, only it was easy at the time to get anyone to buy tiny little banner ads at the time just because you had "dotcom" in your name. Those days are long gone.
I'm not trying to make a buck, I'm just trying to keep the damn place open, as are thousands of other people just like me.
If you can only justify paying for a site that gives you access, you better get out your checkbook, because that's pretty much the way things are going. If you're going to steal from me by blocking what little income I get from ads, I respectfully ask you to not visit the site.
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Jeff
Webmaster/GTTP, Sillynonsense.com
7/27: Subdivision Cam becomes party cam at the year's hottest Ohio luau!
Rob, you and everyone else who claims that just because you pay for access to the internet (expensive, luxury access I might add) and feel that that entitles you to unrestricted access to everything online are in for a serious kick to the head. You say that you "are not forcing anyone to put up a website." Well no one is forcing you to visit this one either. But when you do visit no one is requiring you spend money in order to access content. Rather, it is a courtesy to allow Jeff to make a (extremely) small profit off of showing you ads while you surf. In no way does this cost you anything. Your blocking ads keeps Jeff from scraping together just that little bit to help cover the costs of the site. You can ***** all you want about how hosting costs are cheap...but the old adage of you get way you pay for holds true. GTTP wouldn't make it two days on the type of account you get for $5 (or even $50) a month.
I hope you realize that content is going pay-for-use very quickly and the ability to surf free of charge (let alone while blocking ad revenue from webmasters) won't be an option for very long. Every major company (and even smaller ones like POPWorld) are introducing fee-based services for a reason. Learn to deal with it.
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James Draeger
"Make it stop!"
"There goes the body buggy"
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I fool so feelish...
I have no clue how much it costs to run this place, with hosting around $5 a month in numerous places it shouldn't be much.
It would have been easier for you to say "I don't know what I'm talking about" than to make a statement like that. $5 hosting would last a couple hours before you'd see a "monthly bandwidth exceeded" for the rest of the month. Haven't learned much in 8 years, eh?
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Virtual Midway
http://www.virtualmidway.com
James K. said:
well, those of us who have experiance in the internet "market" can tell who has none.
I'm sure you've got so much "experiance". Dude,I was on the net when the web was text,no graphics,no browser of sorts. I used to dial in with a 300 baud modem in high school and tear along at night thinking-wow,this is pretty cool. Don't tell me about who has experience on the net.
Seriously,how many of you nay sayers here have actually clicked an ad here on Jeffs site? I just turned off Proximitron and the ads got were for singles,one was for the gm card (don't have enough of those), one said I was the 34556234 visitor and I had to visit their claims department. All scams or misleading advertising! How can anyone be expected to click through garbage like that? Maybe the idiotic general public will click them thinking "Wow,I just won $1,000,000 becuase I was the 93459456 visitor to the site" but people who have been on the net and seen it all like most of us have just don't fall for this crap anymore. If the advertising had something of real value without 1000 strings attached,it might do a little better.We have commercial skip on our TV's now too-do you see the TV networks whining about that-no.
Now to the usual people who have their noses up Jeffs ass trying to kiss as high as possible (Walt and Acer). Accusing someone of a federal crime (stealing cable) is a little libelous, better watch yourself. Reading a publicly available website is not stealing. There is no comparison here between the two. This site while looking graphically nice is basically the forums, and a gallery, that's it! There is nothing here that is worth a $1200 a month host fee. If Jeff has the $14000 a year to pay for it, that's great, good for him,I'm glad he's doing well in this lousy economy. If he wants to seriously pay for the site, make it subscription based and lock out all who don't pay,then it's fair. The only ones that are paying now are, like I said, the ones with their noses up Jeffs ass.
Way to show your ignorance. I figure someone as smart as you would know what an impression is.
As far as I know you only get paid from click through,not simply by the ad coming up on my screen and me closing it
I don't need to kiss up to anybody. I've been doing Cedar Point web sites longer than anyone else - period. Trust me, there's no benefit for me to jump on the bandwagon so someone will be my friend. Jeff and I have known each other for quite a while. I didn't become his friend by kissing up on this site.
I've been discussing Cedar Point online longer than some people around here have been alive. People like you come around every so often. It was like that on r.r-c and I'm sure people like you will come around again. What kind of contribution have you made to this site, other than being a troll?
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Virtual Midway
http://www.virtualmidway.com
*** This post was edited by Gemini 7/18/2002 10:27:03 AM ***
Way to show your ignorance. I figure someone as smart as you would know what an impression is.
Ok smart guy. Tell us all how the ad system works. All of the ad companies who have approached our company about putting them on my company's website said we only get paid when someone clicks through. If they paid simply for them appearing on the screen, they would go broke, with 3 or 4 on each page and no click throughs, how can they afford it?
If Jeff tells me that the site gets supported simply by the ads showing up,I will gladly turn off the ad blocker when I come here,I have no problem with that at all. I want nothing more than to see this site do well and get better all the time.
*** This post was edited by MFRob 7/18/2002 9:43:45 AM ***
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Virtual Midway
http://www.virtualmidway.com
*** This post was edited by Gemini 7/18/2002 9:46:06 AM ***
I see the difference but now I'm not so sure about the actual blocking power, I think the ad is still technically sent, Proxomitron just blocks it from being displayed in my browser, if the server requests it be sent,even though it isn't shown, doesn't it get recorded by the advertising company as being shown? I will gladly surf here with the program bypassed if this isn't how it works.
Closed topic.