10 Things that would make Cedar Point better.

I really do love Cedar Point. It is my home park and my favorite park, but while I was there yesterday, I thought of a few things that would just plain make it even more awesome. Let me know what you think.

1. All day lockers in the middle of the park. It's nice having them right when you walk in so you don't have to carry all your stuff a long way right when you get there. However, if you ever want to get anything out of it, you have to walk completely out of your way to get it. There is nothing that those lockers are on the way to. You might as well walk to your car.

2. Shade over the Dragster grandstands. Those things get hot when the sun is out.

3. Signs throughout the park (one on each midway) telling which rides are operational, and how long the wait is. Nothing like walking halfway across the park to find out MF is either closed or has a two and a half hour wait.

4. A special section in the parking lot for season pass holders or Joe Cool Club members.

5. I don't know if this is feasible, but installing the hydraulic lap bars (like the ones on MF and Dragster) on Magnum might make it a little less painful.

6. Floorless style trains on Mantis ;).

7. This would never fly, but removing seatbelts from as many rides as possible. Based on how the hydraulic style lap bars work they seem to be failsafe. The seatbelts are very nice, and I am sure they would hold you in just fine if the lap bars failed, but has there ever been a case where they have failed? Not that I have heard. So many more people would be able to ride if it weren't for the belts. They could at least make them longer.

8. A Huss Land of Giants. Either in Frontier Town or in place of Disaster Transport.

9. Oh yeah, get rid of Disaster Transport.

10. A large "food court" type building with a tables and air conditioning. A large variety of your usual park foods (funnel cakes, pizza, hot dogs, cheese on a stick) at one stop, and a nice cool place to sit, eat and relax.

Edit: I never quite remember how to make the smiley's work.

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Rapter Laps (2003): 6
*** This post was edited by shwilson24 7/7/2003 2:58:19 AM ***

1- There are lockers by PT and MF which are as close to the middle of the park as you're going to get

2- Which queues are completely shaded over? NONE

3- Is walking that difficult?

4- Maybe parking lot not big enough to justify that, especially on weekends and holidays

5- Leave Maggie alone

6- I'm SURE CP wants to invest millions of dollars into converting Mantis into a floorless

7- Seatbelts are there more for additional safely precautions. CP goes the extra mile with having seatbelts in some of the dumbest things (Giant Wheel for one) but they have their reasons. Safety, stupid guests, and lawsuit happy lawyers would be some of the reasons I'm sure.

8- No

9- Leave DT alone

10- Issues here would be where they could build this

Edit: Smileys: : for the eyes ) for the smile

No flame intended here (or maybe there was) it's just that when you've been on this site forever you see these threads over and over again and they get rather old after a while.

Jo
2000/2002 Raptor Crew
2003 Crew????
Lifetime Raptor flights: 761 :) (goin for 1k in '03!)
Who got to hear her name over Talon's loudspeaker! :)
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It's all about getting around the barrels, or over the fences, right leads, no faults, fastest time and looking pretty when done. What's so hard about that? :)

3. I think this is a good idea. I think the park would be interested, but they would need to find the right combination between technology and cost.

8. Good ride - I wouldn't mind seeing a high profile flat ride.

10. I like the thought, but I'm not sure of the logistics. In a way, Midway Market meets this need ... but I see what you're saying.

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Walt Schmidt - Virtual Midway
*** This post was edited by Gemini 7/7/2003 8:34:11 AM ***

3. The idea is cool but they would have to have someone by the sign at all times to update the arrows. That would be a great job.

8. I think we may see a new giant flat ride soon wether from huss or chance, la revolution, but probably not the whole land of the giants.

10. It they were to do this It would probably replace one of the huge picnic shelters at the front of the park.

FYI: The lockers by Power Tower are gone.

I can't beleive no one mentioned Fascination or a good dark ride!

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Dan Haverlock
'03 Magnum Crew
magnum 2347 * TTD 12
www.dannyjphoto.com

Fury: the Sign could be electronic. I think its a great idea as well.. I know its been discussed before here. I wouldn't walk all the way back to Mean Streak if I knew there was a 30-45 minute wait.

Someone e-mailed me once with the suggestion of PEANUTS themed dark ride. If PKI can do it with Scooby Doo, why not?

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Walt Schmidt - Virtual Midway

Good idea with the Peanuts-themed dark ride. It could be themed to the Red Baron or the Great Pumpkin (to tie in with Halloweekends).

2. This would be very nice......and could happen, but I can't see CP doing this. More likely they will put a couple of mister machines by it but, who knows?

3. This would be very nice! I could see this happening in the future.

6. Hey everyone, see he put the wink after this one?

7. So you're going to trade the chance of people getting seriously injured, or even killed for the ability for people riding a ride?
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3. The problem wouldn't be one of electronics--accuracy would be the issue. IOA has 'em and you could find signs 250 feet away from each other with conflicting queue times.

Besides that--if you took a 10-15 minute walk for a ride that had a 10 minute line, would still be 10 minutes long when you got there? Especially when signs throughout the park advertise the same short wait, causing a convergence on that given ride? Even if 100% accurate, the system could create and then fail to fulfill expectations...and perception is everything. I say nay to #3.

-'Playa

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The CPlaya 100--6 days, 9 parks, 47 coasters, 2037 miles and a winner.....LoCoSuMo.

Most of these other things wouldn't bother me too much... but as Jo said... Leave Maggie alone.

Oh and leave Disaster Transport alone as well. My wife and I ride it every trip. Small Line. Air conditioning...
*** This post was edited by dave miller 7/7/2003 11:23:05 AM ***

1. Well, the PT lockers are gone but there are the new TTD ones.

4. I find that if you get to the park before noon and you go all the way up to the front of the parking lot there is usually a decent amount of parking spaces because all of the tourists figure it'll already be full. Some days the middle of the lot is full and there is litterally a hundred or so spaces, and you can see your vehicle clearly from many rides.

5&7. If you use your seatbelt properly Magnum isn't bad at all.

9. Where else can you go to Alaska so fast and cheap?

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Yeah, leave DT alone. It's my guilty pleasure ride. There's just something about riding a ride that's just free-wheeling down a path, not attached to a track. We all know the themeing is pretty bad, but the ride itself is fun.

3. I really like this idea. Jut have the signs radio controlled and they are constantly being updated to let you know how long wait is.

7. I don't agree with taking out the seatbelts, but I do agree they need to make them larger. I don't see what the safety benefit is of a short seatbelt if the lapbar goes down fine ex.. MF has a pretty short seatbelt and sometimes i wonder if it will fit, I'm not fat but i'm a big guy and it is almost too short for me.

Ok, about converting Mantis to Floorless. I am all for it!! So it costs a few million, yeah from money aspect they may not make it all back. But the argument still stands it would be so much of a better coaster being floorless. That way three trains could return also. Some people say they want it to be a sitdown looper style train. I say no for one reason, that's the next coaster we would purchase from B&M. And yup this would fit better in the thread open about Mantis' trains. And yes, we have talked about this over and over. Since one of CP's priority is moving PPH, I would think converting Mantis to a floorless would improve that bigtime. Most people probably don't agree with my thoughts on Mantis, but I'm sticking to it.

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"This second hill is my favorite part of the ride. It is so Cool!"
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I would personally enjoy seeing more giant/thrill flat rides, besides Power Tower, there isn't really a big thrill off of the roller coasters for me. I was first introduced to the Land of Giants on this website and was just fascinated by all of those rides.

But all the rides should be left alone, all the rides have alot of visitors and long queu lines and you shouldn't change anything good to make it good. Mantis always has a line that is an hour long, Magnum will never run out of visitors, and Disaster Transport was never a walk on for me. The last three times I visited Cedar Point, the line was at the door.

The seatbelts don't bother me to much on any of the rides, but the lap bars aren't completely fail safe as I found out on May 23rd. Though they are dependable I guess.

But instead of taking out roller coasters or modifying them, Cedar Point should make more roller coasters and more flat rides. Maybe another stand up, since sit-downs are so common, why not make a stand up a common coaster. All the Bolliger/Mabillard(sp?) stand up coasters are all the same with different sizes and elements in different places, I would like to see another company make a stand up after the whole group of B&M stand-ups came.

Or they can make a rollercoaster with longer ride time. Instead of shooting for tallest and fastest since they already have it, go for most inversions and longest roller coaster. I just love to go upside down on Raptor.

One thing I would like to see change is how they put the chain linked fence on Iron Dragon, I don't know if it was originally there or not, but it makes the ride look like it is neglected.

One thing that really makes a difference to my visit is the appearance of the park, when everything is freshly painted and looks new or recent, it makes the ride seem brand new, like Raptor or Mantis.

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Life has it's ups and downs, might as well make it on a coaster!

To number 3, it could be done without too much dificulty. You have one central database with the wait times, and have monitors place around the park that will tell you the times for whatever ride you want. The only problem is it would be a pain to install this system, as you would have to run wires connecting them all to one another. I'd love to see it, but I'm not holding my breath on it. And I think they should add a B&M flier like X-Flight at WoA. That coster is the only reason I would ever go there again, if Cedar Point had one, I would never even consider going there, I'd just head up to the Point instead.
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Arms down.....Arms down.....Arms down.......Arms down.....Arms down....Arms down...(you think they would get it the first time?!)

khommy - another stand-up would be completely impractical. The reason you don't see too many stand-ups is because they never caught on quite like the B&M inverted, and now floorless, did. I know B&M was not the first to make stand-ups, but the whole concept has just proved too much for the less-than-expected popularity. Old stand-ups like King Cobra at PKI are being removed and there aren't really many great "new" stand-ups worth mentioning, with perhaps the exception of Riddler's Revenge at SFMM (although I've never been there). And you know how much of a pain loading on Mantis is... the stand-up is pretty much a dead idea as of now.

liebevision - X-Flight at SFWoA is actually a Vekoma Flying Dutchman and not a B&M flyer. The only B&M flyers are AIR at Alton Towers and the three(?) Superman: Ultimate Flights. If you loved X-Flight, you'll likely love the B&Ms even more, as most people say they outdo the Vekomas.

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Arms down.....Arms down.....Arms down.......Arms down.....Arms down....Arms down...(you think they would get it the first time?!)

i hated x-flight. hated it. it is slow and rattly and i felt like i was going to fall out the entire time.

2. i would like to see more shade in all the lines. maybe more vegetation. i just seems like my time in line is spent waiting to get back underneath the tent.