Is this the same site where, for years, there was argument back and forth about who had the "most rollercoasters in the world"?
We certainly got into the back and forths about what constitutes a coaster (Superman, SBNO, etc).
Frankly, I think it is going to be a great coaster no matter how you slice it. It should speak for itself instead of the Point feeling the need to fluff it up with ambiguous claims. And I'm POSITIVE that if Six Flags would have done this Point fans would be screaming bloody murder.
"You can dream, create, design and build the most wonderful place in the world...but it requires people to make the dreams a reality."
-Walt Disney
First whoever made this page in the tourism guide Im sure does not work for Cedar Point and just misiturpreted the info provided by Cedar Fair. Whoever that is probaly doesn't realize that their mistake would lead to a frenzy among coaster enthusiasts.
Second I think no matter what definition any of us come up with for "terra coaster", Im sure we can all agree Mav is not the nearly the first. Ultimate, Boulder Dash (layout described as terrain on rcdb), beast....
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Even if Cedar Fair didn't "write" the ad explicitly, they would have approved it for use.
They know exactly what's been printed, and its not a "misinterpretation" at all.
Goodbye MrScott
John
Well, I wouldn't put it past an ad agency to take creative license...but I find it hard to believe they would come up with "terra" on their own.
"You can dream, create, design and build the most wonderful place in the world...but it requires people to make the dreams a reality."
-Walt Disney
In My opinion they're calling this a Terra coaster because it launches through 2 times and has unique elements that Millennium Force and Top Thrill Dragster don't have. Maverick has first of it's kind features too like the Horseshoe Roll, and heartline Roll.
So, Shawn, your interpretation of "Terra-coaster" is that it launches 2 times and has 'unique elements'...
Wicked Twister launches you 4 times, (the 5th swing is a free run), and is unique in that it has a twisted back spike... so wouldn't that be the world's first terra-coaster, by your definition?
The point here is what the definition of 'terra' is... and why it's such a vague claim.
I know that this wording isn't just in this publication. As I said in the first post, I saw an ad in a magazine the other day that was a much smaller sidebar ad, but the wording of the "World's first terra-coaster" line was the same. This is stuff that's coming out of CP's marketing department... and is no doubt just marketing jargon to hype it up... but I'd still love to know what about this ride defines it as a 'terra-coaster'... let alone the world's first.
That's why I brought it up here... thought someone might have seen something elsewhere that defined the 'terra' aspect, and in that right would clarify the world's first 'truthiness' of it.
2003 - Wicked Twister
2004 - Wicked Twister/Top Thrill Dragster
And don't we remember the whole "Strata-Coaster" term. Their marketing department has been at this for a while.
-Craig-
2008:Magnum XL-200 | Top Thrill Dragster
2007:Corkscrew | Magnum XL-200 | Maverick
They coined Giga for 300+ feet
Then, they coined Strata for 400+ feet...
Being the first park to break those barriers... I give them all the creative license in the world to do whatever they please with those names... because they explained what they meant when they used them.
Now, if they're gonna call Maverick the world's first terra-coaster... why aren't they explaining what terra is?
2003 - Wicked Twister
2004 - Wicked Twister/Top Thrill Dragster
I've actually ran into this problem recently. Many people come up to me and ask if CP is building a new ride this year (after I roll my eyes :)) I tell them yes. They ask me what it does and then I kind of hit a wall.
Maverick is the one ride at the park that is difficult to explain, mainly because it is very different (good thing, by the way). You can say it's low to the ground and then it sounds small. You can say it has a 95 degree drop, but that doesn't do the ride much justice. Three inversions isn't any more impressive than Corkscrew. A launch in a tunnel sounds fun, but TTD goes faster.
Basically, you have to talk someone through the entire ride just to explain what it does which takes a while and people start to look at you weird. :)
I guess this is better than "it's just the same thing as _______, but taller and faster".
I'll just say for now on, "It's a Terra-Coaster," and if they ask what that means, I'll just say, "I don't know". :)
-Craig-
2008:Magnum XL-200 | Top Thrill Dragster
2007:Corkscrew | Magnum XL-200 | Maverick
It will be very interesting to hear what CP has to say about this.
Hey, I've got it! Terra = earth = soil.
The big surprise they haven't let out yet is that, on Maverick, you get a face full of dirt!
There is no other possible logical explanation. ;)
My author website: mgrantroberts.com.
Ensign Smith said:
It will be very interesting to hear what CP has to say about this.Hey, I've got it! Terra = earth = soil.
The big surprise they haven't let out yet is that, on Maverick, you get a face full of dirt!
There is no other possible logical explanation. ;)
The secret of the tunnel is out!
We'll miss you MrScott and Pete
Well, I don't know........
"....but water WILL be involved!"
"You can dream, create, design and build the most wonderful place in the world...but it requires people to make the dreams a reality."
-Walt Disney
And now earth too! If they could just find a way to use fire, we'd have a 70's funk band!
My author website: mgrantroberts.com.
Ensign Smith said:
And now earth too! If they could just find a way to use fire, we'd have a 70's funk band!
wheres the wind?
I thought "Giga" coasters was the type of a coaster. The name they gave it for using elevator lift hill. Not the name they gave it because of it's 300 ft record.
Let's Get Weird.
no, giga was for the height. the mane for elevator lift hill was....elevator lift hill. =]
So, I guess my question is this:
I want to build the world's second terra coaster. And, I want it to be bigger than Cedar Point's. What are the criteria by which my coaster can be called "Terra"?
"You can dream, create, design and build the most wonderful place in the world...but it requires people to make the dreams a reality."
-Walt Disney
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