Witches Wheel

If you say so...

*** Edited 6/29/2006 2:16:04 AM UTC by DBCP***

FWIW, my post above was edited but it originally said, simply, "Absolutely" in my usual sarcastic bithc manner. ;)

Michael I would strongly suggest not to post those things on here. Many people actually do what you said just to change seats when ive already checked them .... The Huss Enterprise is a big responsibility especially with the topic you just brought up. Alot and I mean ALOT of people get upset at the requirements for the ride. Lil kids would fly around on that thing. *** Edited 6/29/2006 2:13:16 AM UTC by CedarPointin2003***

So, it's my fault that people jump out of your Enterprise now?

If I was able to figure that out when I was twelve, I have to raise the question of why it hasn't been fixed. Regardless of whether or not a Cedar Point regular reads on some website "by the way, if you push up on the lock you can open it" people are going to do it anyway.

Should I even mention how easy it is to open up a Scrambler car? How about Giant Wheel?

*** Edited 6/29/2006 2:36:20 AM UTC by Michael Darling***

There are enough places at CP where you can hurt yourself if you really want to...

People have brains for a reason... those that don't use them deserve to be hurt....

Don't remind CP Josh.... next we'll have seatbelts on park benches.... ;)

*** Edited 6/29/2006 3:01:38 AM UTC by DBCP***

"Oncoming walkers, as you enter the midway please step quickly but carefully into the designated walking path. Please remember that there is one person per lane and there are two lanes per path. Once walking, please fasten that orange safety belt around you and your walking partner. Keep all parts of your body on the midway and remain walking at all times. Also remember that Cedar Point cannot and will not be responsible for lost or stolen articles while walking."

^LOL! That was hilarious! It's a shame that everywhere you go now, you are reminded that people cannot simply follow common sense. It's also sad to see that warnings must expressed for all forseeable circumstances so that organizations can avoid being sued. Eventually, all of Western civilization will die from simple, avoidable accidents, the corporations involved will have been litigated out of existence, and no one in the rest of the world will miss either.:p

MonsterMan said:
Personally it annoys me when people question height requirements. It's just like people who drive 70 in a 55 because the speed is "just a suggestion, not a safety precaution." If something is written and posted, their is a very good reason why that is posted, and should not be argued. Just my two cents about arguing height requirements. John stole my Ohio Rider Responsibility law quote already.

rrrrrrghhh. i got a ticket for 70 in a 55, coming home from CP. i've already mentioned it in this forum but i didn't use "speed limit is just a suggestion" as an arguement. my thing is that its easy to lose track of your speedometer when you are in a rural area with no other cars within sight on a beautiful, clear, summer evening (then BAM, a &#%@'n cop shows up and screws you over). rrrrrgh.

anyways... why does everybody go into attack mode when somebody asks a question??? its okay if someone starts a topic just to get their questions answered. whats not okay is topics like "OMG CP BUILDING NEW RIDE!!!!111ONEONEONE!!1" chill out peopleeee... relax. and use cruise control.

The ride height limits are based on history or sound engineering principals. On the speed limit issue, you DID get screwed.

Traffic engineering studies have found that the best way to ascertain the appropriate speed limit is to survey the speeds of free-flowing traffic. The speed at which 85% of the vehicles are traveling at, or below, has generally been determined to be a limit which minimizes accident risk and maximizes motorist compliance. It blends an optimum combination of efficiency, consensus, enforceability, and safety.

Current statutorily assigned speed limits are characteristically inflexible and based on general approximations or political considerations, and are generally not based on the 85 percentile rule. The result is that speed limits have become largely irrelevant as a source of guidance to motorists and impractical as a threshold for enforcement purposes.

But what about the aggressive drivers who tailgate and make improper lane changes? That's the real problem, though they usually are speeding. :)

*** Edited 6/29/2006 10:44:55 AM UTC by Walt***

wow... pete, can you represent me when i go to court???? and to walt, driving over the speed limit in traffic is definitely a good reason to hand out a ticket, not when there is no car within a mile radius of you (which was my case).

i remember when witches wheel required you to be 60" to ride. i guess it was just an extra safety precaution because they lowered it.

I don't care for some of the safety stuff which they now have. For years, the Witches Wheel release bar was on the side, then they move it to the top. Why? Is somebody really going to release it and jump out unless they are suicidal? For years all I heard in the stations was "Please look at your feet, if they are on the yellow line, please step back." Now we don't have to worry about that because we now have swinging gates. Who would in their right mind jump out on the track? Corkscrew which was built in 1976 never ever had safety belts, but then last year all of a sudden they were needed. Why? If the restraint comes undone, is that little belt really going to keep me from flying out?

Its like we have unneeded safely precautions on some rides, yet on others we have none. Nothing on the Giant Wheel except a seat belt that, can be undone, and a swinging door that, can be opened. So couldn't a child just unbuckle and fall out?? What about the Matterhorn, lapbar doesn't lock?? What if a child removed himself from the car while the ride was in motion?

Please don't give them any ideas. Mr. SS has made things bad enough as it is.

ejh1701 said:
I don't care for some of the safety stuff which they now have. For years, the Witches Wheel release bar was on the side, then they move it to the top. Why? Is somebody really going to release it and jump out unless they are suicidal?

Things do happen....

ejh1701 said:

Nothing on the Giant Wheel except a seat belt that, can be undone, and a swinging door that, can be opened. So couldn't a child just unbuckle and fall out??

Sure they could, but if a child is too young to know to NOT do that, then their parents should be riding with them. If the child is old enough to know better, and still unbuckles himself, then that's called Darwinism.

There was actually an incident recently where a 6 year old boy was riding by himself, and fell out of a big ferris wheel from the top. His mom watched him fall to his death.

That was a dumb Mom. Who let's their 6 year old child ride a ride like that alone? Stupid people, that's who.

MrScott

Exactly, MrScott. My heart goes out to her, but geez.

Darwinism? Survival of the stupidious?

Hey, I am all for safety precautions and stuff like that, but my main point is that if certain things have been as they were for years (witches wheel release bar on the bottom, no seatbelts on Corkscrew, and no gates on roller coaster station platforms) and then suddenly they are changed, yet other things aren't changed.

But now after looking looking at what dj said about the ferris wheel and kid falling out, perhaps that thing should be changed. Personally, I think some improvements they have made are stupid, and some of the improvements they have not made are also stupid. But really who I am to judge? I'm just a tourist.

Josh M. said:
There are enough places at CP where you can hurt yourself if you really want to...

People have brains for a reason... those that don't use them deserve to be hurt....

I've always wondered about some of those things. Like if someone were to jump a fence and run in front of maXair, Skyhawk, or even Wicked Twister. Not only would they hurt or probably kill themselves... but also the person in the seat which hits them. That is just something I always think about when I watch a train/cabin scream through the station at 60 or 70 mph.