Winter Chill Out Live Blog Discussion

^ I agree dude! Although the bunny hills are the only thing that beat me up. Other than that Magnum is cool the way it is.

Pete said:

That is exactly why the B&M hypers are inferior to Magnum. I really enjoy the more violent and rough airtime on Magnum, something the B&M rides don't deliver. You may like smooth airtime but I find it dull compared to Magnum, which to me is a much more exciting ride.

Okay, suit yourself! I admit that Magnum is a fun and unique ride, but in my humble opinion, smooth ejector airtime is much more thrilling than getting your thighs crushed my sudden and jerky pops of airtime. Am I seriously the only one who feels this way?

One thing you might try is to tighten the seat belt as tight as you can make it if you feel pain from the lap bar. The ride will still be a lot of fun but the pain in your thighs should go away.

Yeah, maybe, but I'm not even a big fan of the layout itself. The drop is okaay, but not a whole lot of airtime on the way down. The second hill has the potential to have airtime but it has a jolting turn and switches directions at the top. Then I'm bouncing around in my seat from the worn track as I enter the eternal pretzel turnaround. The end of the ride is just bunny hop after bunny hop after bunny hop - maybe this part of the ride would actually be fun if I tried your seat belt trick, but I'd rather wait in line for something else, say Millennium Force.

Theme Park Press said:

The drop is okaay, but not a whole lot of airtime on the way down. The second hill has the potential to have airtime but it has a jolting turn and switches directions at the top.

I can't really think of any coaster that delivers airtime while going down the first drop (unless we are talking of the crest in a backseat - and Magnum absolutely does that) and the second hill doesn't turn until you head down and it's hardly a jolt.

And the track is not worn, it rides like it always did. The ultra smooth B&M rides skew people's views on some other, older rides. Don't get me wrong, I love the B&M coasters but they excel at providing a feeling of flight going through the various inversions. Smooth is good for a coaster like that. For coasters without inversions, I much prefer a ride like Magnum which give you the thrill of a traditional coaster. I don't recall hearing all these complaints about roughness and the idea that a buttery smooth coaster is better than one that jolts you around in the past. Maybe younger people are more delicate now than they used to be, I don't know.

Cartwright said:

I can't really think of any coaster that delivers airtime while going down the first drop (unless we are talking of the crest in a backseat - and Magnum absolutely does that) and the second hill doesn't turn until you head down and it's hardly a jolt.

Sounds like you've never ridden Fury 325. Fury 325 in the front feels like Millennium Force in the back. Maybe that's why Magnum's first drop doesn't impress me.

Pete said:

And the track is not worn, it rides like it always did. The ultra smooth B&M rides skew people's views on some other, older rides. For coasters without inversions, I much prefer a ride like Magnum which give you the thrill of a traditional coaster.

My bad. I didn't ride Magnum in its older days, so I just assumed that it got rougher over the years. I get the "wooden" feel and why you would enjoy bouncing around on rough track, but that's not me. If I'm riding steel, I'm riding smooth. ;)

Pete said:

I don't recall hearing all these complaints about roughness and the idea that a buttery smooth coaster is better than one that jolts you around in the past. Maybe younger people are more delicate now than they used to be, I don't know.

We just didn't know any better until relatively recently. Manufacturing coaster track has come a very long way in the nearly-30 years since Magnum was built. I love Magnum, but it could retain its triangular bunny hills with insanely fun ejector air, while being a far smoother ride. The two are not mutually exclusive.

And new trains wouldn't hurt either.

Sounds like you've never ridden Fury 325. Fury 325 in the front feels like Millennium Force in the back. Maybe that's why Magnum's first drop doesn't impress me.

My bad. I didn't ride Magnum in its older days, so I just assumed that it got rougher over the years. I get the "wooden" feel and why you would enjoy bouncing around on rough track, but that's not me. If I'm riding steel, I'm riding smooth. ;)

I haven't ridden Fury 325, you are correct. I just think if you are going to advertise yourself as unofficial "press" and advertise your own fan site you should have your facts on things a bit more straightened out.

If the fact I need to get straightened out is how Magnum has always ridden that way, how would I know any different? I haven't been around as long as Magnum, so please forgive my ignorance on the subject. As for advertising my site, that wasn't my intention. If that's the way it looks, I'll take the link out of my signature.

Fury was fine, but not incredible. Magnum does airtime better, MF does speed better.

Maverick, while a great little ride, doesn't do any one thing particularly well. It's a mix of many little things.

What do you prefer? A ride with a goal, or a ride without any pattern?

I prefer a ride with a goal. Fury's airtime towards the end wasn't extreme or anything, but the first drop (which is what I was referring to earlier) is by far the best I've experienced.

Whoa whoa whoa. Wait a minute... Everything I've read makes Fury 325 out to be the end-all, be-all of hyper/giga-coasters. Now I'm reading that Millennium Force, the #1 steel coaster in the world for however many years, is still the king? Of course everyone said I-305 had dethroned MF when it first came out, too... *end snark*

And I think Maverick does airtime REALLY well... The beyond-vertical drop throws you out of the seat, the airtime hill near perimeter road just SCREAMS negative-gs, and the Stengel dive (I think that's what it's called) feels like a bronco trying to launch you out of the saddle. Everyone I've brought to CP has said Maverick was the biggest surprise in the park.

CP Maverick said:
Magnum does airtime better, MF does speed better.

I'll give the airtime to Magnum but the first 5/8 of Fury is better than Millennium IMO. On certain days, Millennium can offer incredible speed but Fury's layout is far more dynamic than Millennium's. And for me, it comes down to re-rideability. I could ride Fury for hours and never get bored. Unfortunately, I'm finding myself only lasting about 8 straight rides on Millennium before I look for fun elsewhere.

Fury is absolutely more dynamic, but I would say that it feels more like a "big" coaster than a "fast" coaster.

I'd rather compare Fury to something Nitro than the SROS twins. (For arguments sake, obviously it wipes the floor with those)

Tony says in his blog that Coastermania tickets will be around $30, which is similar to Kings Island's event at $31.99, so there is some precedent.

Maybe not the right forum, but here goes anyway... Does anyone know if the CoasterStock price CodeGR mentioned is per day, or for the entire weekend? I'm thinking of a Platinum Pass (we've always just gotten CP Season Passes) next year which would put Coasterstock on the radar.

TTD 120mph said:

Unfortunately, I'm finding myself only lasting about 8 straight rides on Millennium before I look for fun elsewhere.

ONLY 8 straight rides. Haha.

Half of which are actually fully entertaining. ;)

Shane Denmark said:

Maybe not the right forum, but here goes anyway... Does anyone know if the CoasterStock price CodeGR mentioned is per day, or for the entire weekend? I'm thinking of a Platinum Pass (we've always just gotten CP Season Passes) next year which would put Coasterstock on the radar.

The price is for the entire event, not per day.