Will you increase attendance?

Yep - lots out there and lots in the Grand Prix Go Carts low zone. Thankfully, most of the stuff is already lost by the time the third tunnel comes along so we don't find all that much in there.

-Matt
2001 Magnum Crew
2003 Magnum Crew
2004 Magnum ATL

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Millenium Force is sinking too said:
Brian, short answer: yes. "Betrayed". People who are situated half-way between Cedar Point and Michigan's Adventure get two parks for the price of one. Why should this be different?

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Because it is different, and not even remotely the same. Detroit is what, 90 minutes from CP and twice that to Michigan's Adventure? It's not even remotely close to the same situation. GL is for all practical purposes in Cleveland, and for west-siders, less than an hour away to CP.

I've stated this before... next time you go to a Paramount or Cedar Fair park to use a pass from a different park, take a look at the list they have when you go to guest services. On a busy day you'll see maybe a couple of dozen passes used. It's a tiny percentage. In Cleveland, that would be a total nightmare and you might as well just make the park free.

And why should you feel "betrayed?" When you bought that Cedar Point pass, you didn't know the company would own Geauga Lake. It's not what you paid for. They didn't rip you off. Just because you feel hurt in some way doesn't mean they should throw good business sense out the window.

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What time does the water show start?

Yup.

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Jeff, it could be done without it being a total nightmare, but not with the way the passes are currently set up. It WOULD be a total nightmare if you had to manually process the passes from the other parks like you do right now. But if they made it so that you could simply swipe your CP season pass at GL and vice-versa, it wouldn't be a problem at all. When I went to Worlds of Fun last year, it took nearly 10 minutes to just get in the park. If it was like that, then it would be suicide. But if they made it so the passes swipe at both or even at all the CF parks, it wouldn't be a problem at all. In fact it's been boggling my mind why they don't have the passes swipeable at all parks.

Edit: I went last year to WoA 3 times, the first time it was ok but it was slightly irritating, the second time I was a bit upset. The third time I was pissed off. So I don't think I'm going back in 2004. I will probably go back in 05 or 06 though. I'll probably go sometime in 04 now that I've said that though

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If they don't accept CP passes at GL next year, will that mean they won't take other CF passes either? If they just get one special combo CP/GL pass (for an extra charge) then I guess that other CF passes will never be accepted.

I understand about the parks being too close to accept a regular pass at both parks. Here in MN, a VF pass is not good at Camp Snoopy in the Mall of America. Camp Snoopy is only managed by CF though, so that might be different. (btw, I got a ride on the new Timberland Twister last night...fun ride)

what a logistical nightmare!

why deal with it during a summer of transition? Spend a year cleaning the place up, brining it up to standards. Those who'll come... will come. After improvements have been made, its time to showcase the park and open it up to everyone.

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magnum crew 2002
johnny rockets 2003, 2004

As an employee at CP, Camp Snoopy at the Mall of America was the only park our employee id's wouldn't get us in.

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I'm not talking about a paperwork nightmare, I'm talking about a financial nightmare.

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What time does the water show start?

Honestly, I have no idea why everyone is having an issue with this. When they announced the season passes will not be compatible, it immediately made sense to me. Why change the rules after season passes for the '04 season have been on sale for months now? That's like changing prices for a day pass mid-season. It just doesn't make sense. Wait until 2005, and everyone will be happy because all Cedar Fair parks will honor Cedar Fair season passes. Didn't the same thing happen the year CF took over Michigan's Adventure?

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Jeff said:
I'm not talking about a paperwork nightmare, I'm talking about a financial nightmare.

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i.e. People from Cleveland won't spend $90 on a CP pass when they can spend $30 less on a GL pass. $30 is nearly the price of a full-day admission.
Or you get complaints about certain people from the area getting into CP for so much less because they bought a GL (SFWoA) pass for much less than they would have paid for a CP pass, without the intention of getting CP in the deal.

... just wanted to clarify.

CPCyclone, my CP pass was good at MiA the first season. In fact, I specifically went to MiA before CF had a chance to make any improvements so I could make a mental note of what was to come.

I understand where Jeff is coming from. GL and CP are way too close to most people who will have CP season passes. Being from Michigan, GL is more than an hour further from CP for me, and I would likely not vist GL as often. But people in Sandusky, Cleveland, and all points between likely have CP passes already. It's giving them free access for a park that for years has always been an extra charge, even BEFORE it was a six flags park.

I'm not counting on CF allowing CP Season passes to GL even next year unless it's a special combo pass. I'm sure regular CP season passes will be available to those of us who live too far away from GL for it to make sense to purchase the CP/GL combo pass. GL, as well, will likely have a specifc GL pass, and the CP/GL combo pass for those who wish to go to both parks. The cost of the combo pass will probably be slightly less than paying for separate passes for each park.

Financially, that is the only way CF can do this and keep GL alive.
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I'm sure I will be at the park the same number as the last few years. I will probably make it there once a week for the entire summer and cut back in the fall. I'm looking at 25+ visits and I'm going to try my darndest to get there for opening day.

I will definitely be there a couple of times this year...even if only to watch things (hopefully) improve throughout the season. The park has some great rides, and now I'm hoping for at least average service too.

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Steve

Im deffinetly getting a pass this year. I live 5 minutes away,and I can go alot. It also gives me something do in the summer, instead of sitting around and doing nothing.