why only 3 trains?

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Jeff said:
No, it doesn't make sense. Moron is making stuff up. I saw a mis-fire and the train stopped so far up track it took forever to get back. Not to mention that half of the final brakes have been removed because they were such overkill.

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And the final brakes have what to do with the rollback, sport? Everything you said there has nothing to do with the rollback and how powerful CP wants it to be in order to be within what they (not you) deem safe. There's extra parts (tubing) that has come in and word is it should be installed this week, then you'll see 5 cars running. But I only work right there in the area and talk to folks who actually work on the ride, what do I know in comparison to a webmaster? (cough)

Just spreading the word, no need to get your panties in a bunch.
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Concerning the 6 train and 5 car operation, in the Register today (Sandusky's newspaper for those who live far away) I read that we should expect the sixth train and fifth car to be added in a few weeks. It also said that all five trains that they actually have should be running by this weekend. Hopefully the added trains will also mean more frequent launches, otherwise there'll just be some bad stacking. About my wait, I feel pretty fortunate becasue I only waited about an hour with JCC and a good paced run from the main gate. And arearew, your post didn't make any sense. For one, what does the number of trains have to do with how quickly the train will stop on a roll back? And about the final brakes, he was trying to show you that the trains stop easily with what they have now. I'd concur with Jeff that you're a moron.

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Arearew, you said tubing came in. What kind was it? Was it hydraulic hose (possibly to upgrade the pump system so the hydraulics can repressurize faster)?

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*** This post was edited by Kevin Lehman 5/5/2003 9:50:58 PM ***

Of course the launches will be more frequent with more trains. The big gaps on opening day occured because of lack of experience and lack of trains. There were occasions, that i witnessed, where they launched 2 trains back to back with no problems, but towards the end of a "launching cycle" they were missing 3 key elements so the timing was off. Once the crew gets proper coordination with guests, other ride-ops, and all 6 trains things will be gravy. Its just gonna take some times. I concider it a good thing that CP gave it a hell of an effort pushing the crowd given, with the lack of "real" experience the ride-ops had. I see good things coming with this ride.

It isn't good to go around making things up..especially when you work at the park buddy, just a word to the wise..
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Free your mind.
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Another tidbit from yesterday's Register article was the reason there were only 3 trains running is that they were the only three certified by the state to run as of Sunday. The other two should be certified soon the article went on to say.

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Well that's a relief to know that the slow launches is due to inexperience with the ride and not mechanical issues. I didn't realize there was so much coordination involved with operating a coaster. I think the operators should have been trained sooner, but I know that's something that couldn't be helped due to the late completion of testing. And the state approval thing explains why they didn't use four trains, which would be a lot easier to operate than three. I thank CP for opening the ride anyway so everyone would have the chance to have a riding experience like no other!

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arearew said:
The braking mechanism that is required to stop a 5 train coaster in the case of a rollback at the time isn't strong enough to fall within safety specs. Hence, for now, 3 trains.

Three trains or five, ten or twenty trains it does not make a difference. They only launch 1 train at a time, which means that the brakes required are only for 1 train with 4 cars.

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*** This post was edited by Browntggrr 5/6/2003 9:58:45 AM ***

Rogue kielbasa, that may have been me behind you. I seem to remember discussing that while waiting to get in. I was in the very front of the tunnel before the running of the bulls.

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arearew said:

What the final brakes have what to do with the rollback, sport? Everything you said there has nothing to do with the rollback and how powerful CP wants it to be in order to be within what they (not you) deem safe. There's extra parts (tubing) that has come in and word is it should be installed this week, then you'll see 5 cars running. But I only work right there in the area and talk to folks who actually work on the ride, what do I know in comparison to a webmaster? (cough)

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It has everything to do with it. Gravity is gravity, regardless of whether or not the train is moving forward or backward, up one side of the tower or down the other (and as we went over back in the Millennium Force days, the motion in the horizontal vector off the top of the hill has little, if any, effect on speed). Let's think back to your physics, eh? Potential energy is the same either way. Now if one side (the launch side) has more brake fins, it stands to reason that it has more stopping power. Can I make it more obvious than that?

Sure, they have one track section they could add brakes to, and maybe they might even do it because they tend to err on the side of paranoia (20 feet is 20 feet, I suppose), but to suggest that the existing brakes wouldn't stop a five-car train is insane, when clearly they have plenty of wiggle room on the other side.

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wiggle room?
3 trains wasnt all THAT bad people. at least the ride was up and-a runnin' strong!

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okay, we hear you. The ride was up and running. Thanks captain obvious, there has been some criticism lately, and apparently you can't handle it. As I said before, stop copying other people's words and move on.
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Free your mind.
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I was watching the brake run (a lot ;) )on opening day. They could acutally remove a few fins to get the train out of the block sooner. The train slows down quite a bit slower on the fins than when it's moving under the power of the kicker wheels. My guess is the exit speed is just about right with a full length train.
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Oh look, where is "arearew" now? Rollback this weekend with full-length trains, and what do you know, just barely cresting the top it rolled back to stop at the middle of the launch run.

That's what I thought.

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