What's Wrong With Wicked Twister?

From what I've heard through the grapevine, SRF has become a bit of a maintenance headache, which if true, would be a good reason to scrap it. I also think that since WWL disappeared, their water ride offerings seem a little unbalanced considering SRF will soak you and TC will most likely soak you. A flume or Aquatrax fills the desire to have a fun water ride that won't totally soak you, and may even be family friendly. It also seems like something that would fit nicely into the area occupied by SRF and the clearing on the island.

As for the idea of the island becoming a permanent "new section" of the park, I could maybe see that happening in 2010. I don't expect it, but I wouldn't be shocked if it happened. The biggest problem is that the cleared land is the only real open chunk of space on the island, and having walked around that area, it's not all that big. Something like a flume/aquatrax or small to medium sized coaster would pretty much fill that whole space. I can't see making a whole new section on the island to get to one ride station when you could just as easily put the queue and station off the island. There are a few other small plots of land on the island where some flats could probably fit, but even that is pretty limited. The boneyard would be the 2nd largest chunk of land back there (and it isn't even on the island) and it's really not all that wide and has MF cutting through the middle of it. The island is definitly not this limitless amount of space that some people seem to think it is.

I think as CP grows, they migh consider making a ride that interscects through another one! That would be a cool effect and also I hope they maybe move Soak City which would give them more room also! I would hate to see any more trees go!

I've not searched for it, but someone mentioned that there was some welding happening on SRF last year (?), which would indicate that its probably not going anywhere anytime soon, unless the welding was related to the maintenance headache Chris mentioned above.

Not to change the subject, but in Kiextreme there is a section talking about a possible new ride for 2010. They said it looks like they are clearing up around the boneyard area... Any word???

The boneyard area is to the right of the island clearing, across the water. Its seems to have been cleared a bit since this aerial shot was taken.

MonsterMan said:
Looking at that clearing and seeing how it severely eats away at the theming for Paddlewheel either we are seeing a severe overhaul of Paddlewheel or the removal of the Excursions altogether. Much to my dismay I am guessing at the latter.

All of the Paddlewheel Excursions boats are at Venetian Marina right now for storage and maintenance work. I doubt the ride is going anywhere since the boats were obviously refurbished for use this summer.

I think the work on the island could very well be for a new water ride, especially if the boneyard is used for it as well. That gives a nice big area. The island work could be for a new midway as well as that idea was mentioned quite awhile ago by a CP rep (Janice Liffkee?), and it was rumored that the new, smaller paddlewheel boats were purchased because they were lower, which would make it easier to have a pedestrian overpass to the island.

dsloban- Cedar Point does not have a space problem.... What I am suggesting is a matter of convenience. The fact that I suggested this is a big 180 for me. I would rather leave the island untouched and Paddlewheel in place.

Edit: Maybe I should be more clarifying on my Paddlewheel stand. I never said Paddlewheel would not be returning this season. Though I did imply they would be going very soon, such as maybe after this season.

Pete you bring up a point. I forgot about overpasses. ;) Smaller boats, maybe then the Excursions are saved, but I can't imagine how it would be as adventuresome without the forested look....

Chris you seem to have caught on to what I was thinking more than you think. You are right the island is small. However the area cleared up could hold about 90% of Gemini Midway.... So throw in Monster WW, GCA and a shop. the area is comfortable filled. Go to the other edge of the island and lets imagine Troika and Chaos there (a little nostalgia being close to their original locations.) For those of you who will read just the ride names. I do not propose moving them. They are just examples of what can fit... Go ahead an imagine anything you want with small footprints in the area.

Looking at this Windows Live image

Imagine you want to get from Magnum or Gemini to Millennium. You would cross onto the island Where paddlewheel is now. From there the path would divide making a circle around the island and you would find the 2 said areas. They meet back up where the maintenance bridge is set. The paddlewheel "tight squeeze" just after the Millennium "Bunny Hops" to and from the island. Now do not follow the maintenance path... The path should follow the millennium track and voila. You end up on the trail by the tunnel. Might I add very near Millennium Entrance and Mantis. All of this is enough to add a new small area to the park and yet leave enough of the island untouched to really drive Terror island.

Imagine how that will help the families who have split to ride Millennium and then to Magnum. Shortcut. How about the kids in the family. Now Camp Snoopy is a brief walk from both locations. The non coaster rider now has some options close to both coasters without wandering too far.

Do you have to use the restroom on the island? Don't have to build any... Camp Snoopy Restroom is across from the Paddlewheel entrance. After you cross the bridge to the other side, the Restrooms by Red Garter are just to your left beside Albert.

They could utilize the current bone yard area if they wanted and still keep a bone yard.... If indeed the bone yard has shrunk in amount of items stored there since the last time I walked through it, then Look towards the area under Iron Dragon. Too small for any future park expansions, but just good enough for a mini bone yard....

This is my prediction 2009 last season for Paddlewheel. ;( Very sad indeed. 2010 maybe one side of the island opens up if not both. Again by 2020, Frontier Trail fades away from it's then 60 year history. Sad prognoses, but dare I say Progress for the Park.

But, what does the park gain by providing a shortcut? Nothing, so far as I can tell. They'd provide a way for guests to cut down on the number of shops and eateries they pass by, but I don't know if that's something the park is after.

I'm not saying using the island for a midway is a bad idea, but I don't know if the cost really seems to be justified, especially these days.

That new area is not for a new path/area of the park. Cedar Point is not going to spend cap. money on building a new area. That area is being prepared for a new attraction. Maybe a water ride, but Cedar Point is extremely perdictable, its not like they've given us that many surprises in the last ten years.

I would assume that it will be a new roller coaster, maybe Snake River will stay, maybe it won't. With the addition of Diamondback's water splash at KI, I could see SRF removed and a watersplash element added at the end of the coaster (i.e. Diamondback, Sheikra, etc). This way (like Sheikra) people could get wet if they wanted too. It seems these days not many people want to get soaked and walk around all day smelling like a wet dog... this would justify SRF's removal.

We'll have to wait and see. Some of you need to not think so out of the box on this one... haven't you learned enough from Cedar Fair and their cap projects... it doesn't take much imagination to figure out what they build next.

^Now a splashdown area is what I can see the park doing if they're building a new coaster. Good call! :)

I'm not sure how well a splashdown would work with a GCI...

:)

I predict maintenance work for WT, but nothing severe.

As far as SRF and such...I don't see SRF going anywhere. And I could see the Island become a new area, but for nothing major other than MF.

And I don't see Paddlewheel going anywhere. Let the boat take you over there.

Most likely explains why the Dragster Cam has been in maint. mode for so long.

The Dragster cam wouldn't have been able to see this work at the angle it was pointed. I highly doubt that's why the cam is down. But in regards to the splashdown idea, I can actually see that happening. If they get rid of SRF they already have the pool to work with. I think Tilt-a-Whirl is truly on to something there.

Haha. Sorry I thought that it was a footer near the track on the ground but it is just the bucket for the men to get into! My bad. =)

Tilt-A Wirl,

New areas at CP in last 10 years. Camp Snoopy, Planet Snoopy, and if you consider the major overhaul of the Oceana Midway, then the Wicked Twister Midway area is a new Area... As well as LIghthouse point is a new area (of sorts) the park invested in whether you consider it one or not.

I t is not unheard of for CP to Create new areas or any park for that matter, be it renovating an old area, or cutting into more land.

djDaemon said:I'm not sure how well a splashdown would work with a GCI...:)

With Gravity Group's new Timberliners, anything is possible.;)

Monster Man- Planet Snoopy was an overhaul to an existing area, as well as the Oceana midway. Im not saying your idea isn't a good one. Im just thinking more practically. The odds of CP investing money to simply create a shortcut just doesn't seem logical to me. The park doesnt need more shops/food eateries, it has plenty of them (they need to update and renovate the ones they have before they rebuild more)

Cap. expeditures are aimed at what guests want, and what will create a return. I don't see many people making travel plans to come to CP just to walk down a new path with shops that sell junk no one wants, or overpriced food. Its pretty obvious that a new coaster is in the works for 2010... should be a fun 2009!

Making a path across the island sounds like a RCT move to me. It would make more sense to me if they were going to scrap SRF and make a new ride in it's place as well as use the space they've cleared.

well, whatever it is, it looks good for us :)