Shane Denmark said:
Never understood the Tilted Kilt name... Women don't wear real actual kilts, traditionally.
But if a man is wearing one when aroused, one could consider it tilted.
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The girls at Tilted Kilt are too skinny, at least the one in Canton. They look anorexic. I don't like girls that skinny. But the food is decent.
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Thabto said:
The girls at Tilted Kilt are too skinny, at least the one in Canton. They look anorexic. I don't like girls that skinny. But the food is decent.
The food is actually pretty good, but I can't support the place. They're allowed to hire based on body type and fire someone if they gain weight or whatever. They get around this by not hiring their employees as servers, but their official job title is "model". It allows them to discriminate and they aren't afraid to do it blatantly.
My aunt -- who once cut short a visit to Chicago because too many people used the "mother-eff word" for her liking -- went to Hooters. She liked the food.
I've never been to one of these "breastaurants" (nicely done, RCMAC) and have no interest in doing so. I'd rather find a nice diner.
Hiring "models" or "cast members" is important to their business model. I wouldn't give repeat business to the place if the girls didn't fit the image they are hiring for. That's the whole point of a breastaurant.
I'd rather be in my boat with a drink on the rocks,
than in the drink with a boat on the rocks.
I don't disagree, but as much as I might worship Scarlett Johansson for her, uh, assets, I have to admit that I'm not particularly comfortable with objectifying women as a business model. It's not that I can't recognize women as attractive, it just feels like we should have moved beyond valuing them as attractive by now.
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I am not seeing the difference between worshiping a woman for her "uh, assets" versus objectifying them.
Well, you left off the part of objectifying women "as a business model."
My joking above aside, there's a difference between looking at Scarlett Johansson, Channing Tatum or Melissa McCarthy and finding that person very attractive because of their physical attributes, and basing a person's eligibility for a job mostly or solely on their appearance.
Yes, that. I don't care if people find other people attractive, or if they embrace sexuality, but when you work a job for your T&A, I feel like the respect goes away.
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I certainly understand your guys' point, but I think it comes back to young women being proud of their bodies, and seeing these places as an opportunity to use what's been given to them as a way to make decent money. It's not like the breastaurants are making girls work there.
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Wow, I can't believe that's real.
I'm not a woman, but I don't think I would be OK with being valued for my winnings in the genetic lottery. I'd like to think my value is defined by the decisions that I make. I suppose "use it if you got it" isn't the end of the world, but I'm not in a hurry to be a part of the other side of that situtation.
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Interesting conversation.
I won't deny it: when I visits friends in Arlington, VA, we usually head into D.C. and end up at bars where young, attractive, naked men dance on the bar and, for a suitable "donation" will allow one to fondle them, and we are usually quite free with our donations.
So, on the one hand, I'm fine with classically attractive folks trading on their looks for money.
But, on the other hand, businesses that base their business on hiring people based on their looks, not their expertise, experience or talents.... that bothers me.
I guess that a person basically saying, I'm attractive, I can make money because of that -- they're using one of their assets to make money and I can respect that. A business that bases their business not on the quality of product or service but on its employee's looks, on the other hand, strikes me as, well, cheesy.
It seems like you are making a distinction between two things that I just cannot see. You go to a bar to fondle attractive, naked dancers and that is OK. But a business that bases their business on hiring attractive people is bad. You don't suppose the bar that you go to has a hiring practice that limits who they will hire? What am I missing?
I think he's saying there is a distinction between selling sex and hiring someone to do something non-sexual because they're sexy. The latter has nothing to do with their ability to do the work.
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But places like Hooters and Tilted Kilt are selling sex, just a milder form than what you get at a strip club. Instead of girls pole dancing you have girls serving food and beverages, but the reason for them being there is to look sexy and pretty. If the wait staff is hired for their ability to be servers the place would be like any other restaurant. The whole point of a breastaurant is to interact with pretty girls, just like a strip club.
I'd rather be in my boat with a drink on the rocks,
than in the drink with a boat on the rocks.
We had a strip joint in Columbus that advertised "Ten gorgeous babes and two butt-ugly ones"
So.... Good for them!
I don't know if BWW would scale well without some serious attention to the wait staff. That Breakers Friday's was a disaster for years in terms of service, and still the biggest store in the chain at one time. Famous Dave's has been inconsistent as well. The BWW across the street from SeaWorld is just awful. My lunch crew stopped going because it was turning into a 90-minute affair without a lot of people even in the restaurant.
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Thinking about it further, well, yes, a business that hires attractive men or women to offer themselves up for money are hiring them to use their bodies to sell something: alcohol, usually.
That said, there's a direct transaction involved; if I tuck a few dollars into the sock of one of those guys dancing on the bar, I get to have some fun in exchange.
Whereas if I walk into Hooters, it's the company that's trading on the physical attributes of the employees to sell food. Being gay, I get no titillation from an attractive, scantily clad woman bringing me food.
So, what Jeff said. The guy on the bar is selling me sex. The woman at Hooters with a pulled pork sandwich on her tray isn't. The guy is selling me sex -- the woman is being used by her employer to sell food.
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