Werewolf Canyon

I heard there are going to be live wolfs in this attraction. Has anyone else heard this?

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i dont think they are live, i think its screamster type people... at least some..if they have live wolves that will make it so much cooler and scarier

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As seen at Virtual Midway's Halloweekends Fun Facts:

"The NEW Werewolf Canyon is the ultimate in all-out fright, and you definitely don't want to encounter Timber, the leader of the "wolf pack" and instigator of all evil. If you dare to enter Werewolf Canyon, you'll witness more than 30 wolves and werewolves - all of which will send chills up and down your spine."

I don't know...I think there might end up being some wolfs present...maybe in cages, but present.

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*** This post was edited by coasterluver 9/6/2003 3:42:13 AM ***

i dunno...

what are they gonna do? RENT some real, live WOLVES?? i dont think so.

i admit, it WOULD be cool, but would it be fair to the animals? no.

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it aint the size of the arrow, its what you do with the bow....

Y'know, it sounds as though they're going to have people walk through the Thunder Canyon course. The only problem with that is that there are weirs in there to create rapids. I wonder if they'll have to take those out.

Wait a minute. No, they'll leave the weirs in. Why do you think they call it Weir-Wolf Canyon...!

--Dave Althoff, Jr
Who simply couldn't resist...

I don't think animal rights people would be too keen on having wolves endure hours in a cage inside of a smoke filled canyon with screaming people everywhere. My money's on the same type of people in the Frightzone, just with werewolf costumes.

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So this whole set up will take place in a drained Thunder Canyon???
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Later Wally

No. They freeze it, hand you some skates.

[/end sarcasm]

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OMG! The Space Spiral is leaning!!" Must be the weight of that new air conditioning system everyone keeps hypothesizing about...

Ok... we were there visiting today, and we saw the drained "Werewolf Canyon." I stood on the bench at the entrance and could see that they are going to have a ramp leading up to the observation deck...probably for the exit. The observation deck is blocked off and some of the wood is missing at the top...so the ramp can connect to where people would be coming out of "Werewolf Canyon."

It's kinda nice to see this starting! ::smile:: I just have NO idea about the "real" wolves or not. Doesn't seem feasible...however; ...I just don't know.

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coasterlover: I stood on that very same bench to peek in at the canyon yesterday afternoon. To me it looked like the ramp that went from the observation deck was to get into the canyon. But after reading your post & giving it some thought, I believe you to be correct that the ramp must be the exit. That way, the TC queue could be utilized for the entrance.

Now I'm wondering if the walk through the Werewolf Canyon will be downhill (or downstream) from the entry point, or the shorter uphill route.

I would hope that you navigate through the majority of the ride by going the downstream. If you went upstream it would be the shortest attraction ever if the exit really is at the observation deck.

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*** This post was edited by CP FANatic 9/7/2003 8:00:10 PM ***

Well... if the exit is at the observation deck...the entrance would probably be like normal. If the exit is at the entrance...and the entrance is at the observation deck.... it will still be that short spot between the entrance and exit. Hmmm...this is hard to type out. The only place it will probably go is from the entrance to the observation deck...or the other way around. This is how it appears it's going to be set up. Unfortunately, people on the midway probably will not be able to see anything of what is going on in there ... however; wouldn't it be neat to watch!!!???!!!

Sorry....I know this reply was a bit confusing. It will be a short walk through, I believe. However; maybe short...but maybe intensly scary!!!

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Didn't we all go over this in the Hell Yeah! HalloWeekends thread? Yes the observation deck is the exit. And logic would point to the having guests walk reverse through the flume. Walking the flume in daylight takes at least 5-7 minutes, just think how much longer it would take guests unfamiliar with the layout walking through thick fog.

If it was dark out, I think that the logistics of keeping track of everyone would be too difficult, because you just know there will be some "curious" guests who would like to jump out of the flume and run around in the woods. By having guests walk upstream will make it much easier to actually keep people within the flume since they will be walking towards the portion of the ride with the tall canyon walls. Also, this will take away the need to update all of the cameras to night vision.

If indeed there will be real wolves, which it sounds like, it will be much easier for them to get the wolves in and out if they are only in the last stage of the flume rather than scattered through the whole ride. And having fog throughout the whole ride seems like it would be a little pricey if you ask me...

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...and the most anticipated event of summer 2003 is...

The Matrix: Reloaded!

*** This post was edited by CP_bound 9/8/2003 11:31:41 PM ***

CP bound said: "Didn't we all go over this in the Hell Yeah! HalloWeekends thread?" Not sure...I made this post up to not to address Halloweekends. To specifically address Werewolf Canyon, for any type of talk about this attraction.

CP bound said: "Yes the observation deck is the exit. And logic would point to the having guests walk reverse through the flume. Walking the flume in daylight takes at least 5-7 minutes" How do you know it takes this long? Have you walked the canyon?

CP bound said: "...'curious' guests who would like to jump out of the flume and run around in the woods. By having guests walk upstream will make it much easier to actually keep people within the flume since they will be walking towards the portion of the ride with the tall canyon walls." I don't think they could run into the woods the way the boardwalk is set up. I think they will take into consideration where walls need to be built, boardwalks need to be installed, so this very thing doesn't happen.

CP bound said: "Also, this will take away the need to update all of the cameras to night vision." I am not sure what you mean by this, could you clarify? Thank you.

CP bound said: "If indeed there will be real wolves, which it sounds like, it will be much easier for them to get the wolves in and out if they are only in the last stage of the flume rather than scattered through the whole ride." Do you really think they will be allowed to roam that part of the canyon? Wouldn't that be dangerous for both the people and the wolves? Maybe they will be in cages? I think you misunderstood...I was not talking about the whole ride...just the entrance to the observation deck-backwards.

CP bound said: "And having fog throughout the whole ride seems like it would be a little pricey if you ask me..." Nah... Look at the "Fright Zone" ... there is plenty of fog there. I believe that it would be more contained in the canyon because of the high walls...I believe it will be more fog than the "Fright Zone" because of this reason. And again...I was not referring to the whold ride...only the section that is going to be for Werewolf Canyon.

Sorry ... guess I didn't make my other post clear enough...darn, I knew it wouldn't make a lot of sense. Errrr....

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How do I know how long it takes to walk the flume? I walked it many a time this year as I worked on the ride this summer.

The concrete flume walls are only around 3 feet tall. I could easily see some unruly group trying to jump the wall and run around in "field." I made this comment to discount the thought that people might walk through the whole ride, rather than the last portion of the ride.

If guests roamed about the whole ride there would be a need for constant surveillance especially after dark, so all of the cameras would need to be upgraded to night vision rather than the last couple, or none at all with using only the last part of the ride.

I never said that they were going to let wolves be vagabonds within the flume, I'm sure they would be in cages if they are indeed part of the ride. When I said that it would be easier to get them out in just the last part of the ride, I meant after closing. They wouldn't just leave them out there.

I thought you were talking about the whole ride, which is why I commented on the money issue comparing the whole ride to just the last stage.

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...and the most anticipated event of summer 2003 is...

The Matrix: Reloaded!

I knew I messed up that post... I couldn't type it just right for you to understand what I meant. Sorry.

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Let's play "Find the one-legged seagull"

And was there really a need for you to basically re-copy CP_bound's entire post? You could have just addressed specific questions, not picked his entire post apart causing myself and many others to completely re-read his post, again.
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Everything that has a beginning, has an end. 11.05

Wolves are endangered species (but making a comeback with re-introduction into the wild, especially in Yellowstone). It would take a lot of money to be able to get wolves for the attraction. People screaming and spooking them would drive them wild. Even with a tame wolf it is still dangerous because they are very loyal to their masters and strangers are not treated kindly, meaning that CP could get some serious lawsuits on their hands if a person was injured. They could also get in trouble if the wolves were not properly taken care of. Common sense says there will be no real wolves. They simply mean that there are going to be people dressed up like werewolves.
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Has anybody thought that maybe they will use animatronics for the caged wolves, along with actors dressed in wolf costumes?

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Today i looked in the canyon and its clear that your going in through the exit, and coming out at the observation deck. they have potted trees all over the place throughout the canyon as well as fog machines. It looks like its going to be interesting.

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