Top Hat Stall... what are the odds?

Unreal.

Of course it's possible to stop it... but you're more likely to be struck by lightning with a winning SuperLotto ticket in your hand the millisecond that the planets are in perfect alignment. You're talking about balancing a train that weighs several tons on a sharp point with people wiggling around 420 feet up where the air is never still. Can you even for a minute comprehend how absurd that is?

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Jeff
Webmaster/GTTP - Sillynonsense.com
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maybe this should go ahead and be locked before tempers get out of control.
*** This post was edited by Draken_LC 4/24/2003 2:14:57 PM ***

I think Jeff would have closed it when he posted his last comment. He's just pointing out what seems like common sense (at least to me). That's like saying that the train on Mantis would stop perfectly upside down on the loop. Impossible.

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MANTIS ROCKS 2002 & 2003

Don't say stopping upside down in a loop is impossible. It happend at SFGAm a few years back on the Demon. Of course, they lost a trailing axel that effectly turned the last car of the train into a giant anti-rollback against it's Arrow Corkscrew track.

BTW, don't miss the 2003 CoasterBuzzCon at that very same Six Flags Great America :)

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No, I said the Mantis wouldn't stop upside down. Any if anything were holding it back (as in the demon case), then it hasn't stalled...it is being stopped.

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MANTIS ROCKS 2002 & 2003

What do they plan to do if that happens on the ride?

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Agent Stinky

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*** This post was edited by agentstinky 4/24/2003 4:30:04 PM ***

Jeff, hasn't it stopped on top? so appearently those were some odds it was against, wouldn't ya say?

But I think with people in it, if a few of the riders shake around it'd get rolling again. haha

Sure the odds are monstrously small, but to say it didn't happen just based on that fact alone is silly, and especially considering the park is testing the ride, and may have wanted to test what happens when the train stops up top.

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Jes
Jes's Roller Coasters DJ Jes
Six Flags Worlds Of Adventure Ride-Ops Crew 2002-2003! Have fun trying to find me!

Who said it stopped? What fantasy world are you living in?

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Jeff
Webmaster/GTTP - Sillynonsense.com
"Pray that your country undergoes recovery!" - KMFDM

If they wanted the trains to stop 420 feet up, then they would have put brakes 420 feet up in the air. But we didn't see any of those, now did we?

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MANTIS ROCKS 2002 & 2003

No, they obviously do not want trains to stop up there during normal operation, just as Cedar Point does not want Dragster to roll back during normal operation. Nonetheless, they undoubtedly are prepared for trains that may roll back as they have tested that.

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Jes
Jes's Roller Coasters DJ Jes
Six Flags Worlds Of Adventure Ride-Ops Crew 2002-2003! Have fun trying to find me!

3 people (2 of whom are very respected) have said it stopped at the top. I believe those 3 people more than 1 person who just claims it can't happen.

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-Jeff

The only thing worse than people who make grammar mistakes are the people who have to point it out every ****ing time.

I really hope this kinda stuff such as rollbacks dont happen much because the General Public sure wont be happy. A Enthusist like me would love it to stall at the top then roll back and a lil later get lauched over.

REPEAT WITH ME PEOPLE..THEY ARE TESTING!

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When come back, bring pie.

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Agent Stinky

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"When come back, bring pie."

Okay... that pie statement just boggles my mind... seriously... my brain hurts just thinking about it.

Getting back on topic, I don't even know how it is possible to stall while going over the top hat and stopping up there on a dime. Sure, under the right conditions, but with all the variables up there such as wind and launch power among other things? Come on now folks... I would much rather listen to a legit reason put forth from a very reliable source with connections within the park...
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2003 - Gemini Crew

Am I psychic?

I posted this a while back in the TTD Dream thread.
"I was riding toward the front of the train and at the top of the tophat there was a set of breaks in case of an e-stop. the train was stopped at the top but because I was in the front of the train we were already dangling down the drop side of the coaster. I started sliding out of my seat and all the people around me had to hold me in for probably a half hour until they got the ride fixed. When I finally got off the ride I swore I would never ride it again, and was angry when I did not get any ride again passes for my near fatality."

Also, this is far fetched, and I don't know much about physics and all that... but it seems that a 'shorter' train would be harder to balance at the top of the tophat rather than a 'longer' train. Could this be the reason that they are testing with only 12 seats instead of 16 now?

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If you look at this picture: http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery1896.htm?Picture=42 it doesnt really seem possible for it to stall on the top with all 5 cars on the train.

if anyone has read the virtual midway area about TTD they explain emergency braking. When the train is launched it does not want to be slowed down by brakes so as soon as the train clears launch copper fins or magnetic brakes rise out of the track so of there is a rollback the train will slow down because lets face it a train goin 120 mph hitting another train well.......You conclude yourself.