The station is going up!

Im not sure what forum i read this under, but there is a couple that doesn't even have kids, that still push a stroller around just to haul their crap that they need. Its weird, but works. I have never had anybody screw with my stroller or wagon when we have left it to go ride something.

Whatever works!

When i am without kids, i have my phone, "park wallet", sunglasses, and line candy, all in my cargo pockets!

Sause said:
I agree with you, but once a family realizes that they brought too much and have to pay for a locker, they probably won't bring as much the next time.

Unless they find value in paying to use a locker for their stuff.

But don't get me wrong - I'm with the majority here. I wear cargo shorts/pants and carry very little while in the park. But I also understand that I'm the exception. Different people have different needs.

djDaemon said:
What works for you doesn't necessarily work for everyone. And you (and many others here) have had years and countless trips to hone down your "CP kit" to the barest of essentials.

My "CP kit" is the same thing I take pretty much everywhere. And it wasn't years and countless trips to CP that let me hone it down (although I have been going for 40+ years, until the last 2-3 years, I pretty much never went more than once).

Reality is a lot of people like to bring a bunch of stuff with them pretty much everywhere they go. Which is fine. But again, why should others have to subsidize the cost of storing that? And making lockers "free" would just encourage more people to bring more stuff.

Taking stuff with them everyone is a lot like, and is often times furthered by, the notion that many people seem to have that if they do not have a sip of a beverage every 15 seconds, they will dehydrate.

GoBucks89 said:
But again, why should others have to subsidize the cost of storing that?

Note again that I'm in agreement, but just to play devil's advocate...

Why should flat ride-only riders subsidize the cost of the coasters to coasters-only riders? Why should water drinkers subsidize the cost of soda for soda drinkers (in the case of Holiday World).

And making lockers "free" would just encourage more people to bring more stuff.

Right, but so long as there's adequate locker capacity to meet the increased demand, what difference does this make? Is your day somehow devalued because other guests are lugging their belongings from locker to locker?

Rides are a core purpose of the park. How many people come to CP just to eat, drink or use a locker. I can see a non-rider admission ticket but at this point CP doesn't deem one in its best interests. And ultimately, if the park goes to flat ride/coaster admissions, I could deal with that as I enjoy all the rides and would pay for them. No issue with non-riders or flat ride riders saying they shouldn't have to pay the same admission. Whether CP finds that to be a policy that makes sense is another story.

I am not in favor of the Holiday World drink policy (as a water drinker and someone who drinks less than the sip every 15 seconds folks).

The more stuff people bring to use "free" lockers, the more likely it becomes that there are not enough lockers. And then they are adding more to the ticket price to cover the "free" lockers which does affect me.

GoBucks89 said:
The more stuff people bring to use "free" lockers, the more likely it becomes that there are not enough lockers.

You're assuming the folks running the park would not plan for or adjust to increased demand. I don't see why that assumption is reasonable.

And then they are adding more to the ticket price to cover the "free" lockers which does affect me.

True - you'd spend less time waiting in line.

I think its very easy to underestimate the desire of a lot of folks to bring a lot of stuff just about anywhere they go. And it will take some time for the majority of park goers to understand the new "free" locker policy exists. So there would be a build up to more stuff being brought to the park and the resulting need for more lockers which I could easily see the park misjudging (at least initially).

I suspect the decreased wait time associated with couple buck admission price increases wouldn't really be noticeable. And I can get that now for free by just going the right times of the year if I am just looking for shorter lines.

My view is the park should charge for non-core aspects of the day on a user fee basis. In the end, the park with do what it thinks is in its best interests. And I will react accordingly.

Can I just say I love how off topic most of these posts get right around number 100?

I'm not sure what you mean. The station to Gatekeeper is coming along swimmingly.

:)

I just do the fanny pack, that holds pretty much everything i need, 2 phones, money, cc's, some other random stuff, I'm good.

on a Station note!. Are they going to paint the station, or is it going to be the metal look? stripes, lines etc?

Eaton

I hate it when people my age or younger bring just about every thing they have in their house. I wait in line and see people with giant bags full of things they rarely use or need to use. Such as kindle, hair dryers, fancy designer snake skin bags, extra underwear, 7 souvenier bottles, basket balls, and prizes they've won at the games. I watch as they get so upset when the ride host tells them to put it all away in a locker at rides like MF or dragster.

I travel light, all i need is my pass, money, and by van key (If I drive). I rarely bring my cell phone unless I am meeting someone. I also wonder why people carry prizes they won all around the park all day. Play the games at the END OF THE DAY, then you can just leave the park at 10 and that's that. :)

Jeff said:

We all have choices, my friend. Do you not ride Millennium Force?

I understand. Yes I do ride Millennium. But, not as much as I would if I didn't have to pay for a locker everytime. I rarely feel like waiting to ride Dragster, so that one is usually a non-issue for me.

Many parks offer the temporary free lockers. That would be an acceptable solution to me. It seems to me the park and unitholders would want to do whatever they could to promote in park spending.

I think I'm a little lost. I know this started when bins were discussed, but are some saying that CP has a lack of lockers, or that they are too expensive?

Regardless, I'm still hoping for no bins. Everything just seems to run much more efficiently and smoothly without them.

Hopefully Tony is reading this!

My problem is that I have a greater cultural criticism that people are attached to crap. People can't just be in the moment and leave the house without stuff. You want to implement a quality life hack? Try reducing the crap.

This argument that you "need" crap to go to an amusement park strikes me as insane. That it's different from virtually anything else or anywhere else you go isn't something I buy either. I don't carry crap with me to work, where I go for nine hours when you include the commute time. I carry as little as possible to other amusement parks, or anywhere I've gone on vacation, whether it be Las Vegas, Kauai, or even Portland, Oregon.

I can see where the crap attachment can come from, especially for younger people. Backpacks went through a phase as being trendy, and teenagers love trends. Parents and teachers make sure a kid always has water and a snack available these days (resisting a "when I was a kid" speech here). Hell, I've been guilty of that.

At the end of the day, if I really need to bring something with me, I can keep it in my car. I don't see how being burdened with crap is better than the "inconvenience" of having to go back for something.

I know I'm piling on here, but yeah, what could anyone possibly NEED to take in the park with them other than money, cell phone or keys. I get that girly girls want their purse full of cosmetics with them so they can primp and preen all day (gotta stay pretty for us bona fide studs), so maybe a slight pass there - but the rest of the cargo people are carrying, as you say, is "crap!" I can't even imagine what small kids would have to have so bad that they couldn't do without it for a few hours. And if they truly can't, maybe an amusement park isn't the place to be hanging out.

I agree with that. Seeing people in line with their DS and Kindle is kind of absurd. I mean, it's really not hurting me by what they decide to do in line, but that's just an extra thing that doesn't need to be brought with you to an amusement park if you ask me.

Kevinj said:
if there was one thing I could physically remove from the park in terms of the crap people carry around, it's the mini basketballs. For whatever reason, whenever I hear them bouncing around me the grumpy old man (OK, grumpy 36 year old) in me wants to yank out a giant needle and just pop them all.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets filled with rage at the mere sight of those things. I've always wished the park would give them out deflated and have a fill station just outside the gate that people could use to pump them up.

I have no problem with people bringing "crap" to the park, or winning basketballs.

*shrugs*

I took my daughter to the park last summer by myself and everything we needed fit into a fanny pack. Took the wife with us in October and somehow she needed a backpack. Pissed me off, but I learned long ago which battles are worth fighting for.

The same arguments being made against bringing stuff into the park can also be applied to owning a personal vehicle, and I'm willing to bet most of you (or your parents) own your own car.