Terrorism.......

More than a vague resemblance, actually - if anyone here saw Mr. Bottoms as George W. in "That's My Bush", he was pretty scarily accurate (in looks, anyway).

Talking about it isn't pointless. It helps people deal with whatever concerns they have, especially if they can get a wide range of opinions like they can on Guide To The Point. My opinion is that CP is pretty safe against torrorism, it has some natural defenses due to its location. Surrounded by water on three sides, and only one primary enterance point, would make it fairly difficult to sneak anything in. Sure, you can have a car bomb, but that would just blow up some surrounding cars in the parking lot. It's not something that would be a big enough event to make it worthwhile to a terrorist. I'm sure CP police have taken some increased security measures as well.

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Wade said:
Perhaps I missed the nurse taking her rounds handing out stupid pills, but I always thought that Operation: Desert Storm was in fact a war.  No, it's no the most extreme American conflict and was resolved very quickly, but I don't believe it's accurate to say that college kids have no frame of reference when it comes to national terror.  Try explaining to a fourth grader that a bad man in the desert is killing people and taking away the gas for daddy's car.

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That was no war. More Americans died of friendly fire (none of them civilians, I might add) than did from the "enemy." Not to mention it wasn't on our soil. To compare that to the attacks is ridiculous. I was a senior in high school during the Gulf "War." I wasn't even phased by it, ditto for my classmates. This is the first thing in my life that made me want just be home with my family.
If you're ready to move on, go ahead and do so, but don't do it at someone else's expense.
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Tony, I am not underestimating that people know of CP everywhere in the world.  But pride aside, it is not nearly as well known as somewhere like Disney.  There are plenty of people in even the US that do not know of CP, but its almost guaranteed that they have heard of the mouse.  As for targeting it, yes a bomb could be set and could take a fair amount of human life.  However, it still wouldn't have the impact sought.  That very same bomb at a sporting event such as "America's Favorite Pastime (baseball)" would stand to do much more damage and killing, along with attacking something considered even more American (again pride aside).  So if you really look at it, CP would be very far down the list as far as targets.  Above that, anything heavy government, heavy business, national monuments, and national sporting events.

All that aside though, the best way to combat terrorism is to not be afraid.  If a terroristic act keeps you from living your life the way you would just because of fear, then they have succeeded.

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By the way Andrew....its Brian not Brain :).

Seems to happen a lot :)

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Wolfhounde said:

All that aside though, the best way to combat terrorism is to not be afraid.  If a terroristic act keeps you from living your life the way you would just because of fear, then they have succeeded.

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I have to agree with this. I don't stay in my house like a hermit fearing terrorism. This was their goal and it looks like they are succeeding.

 
This is my we may be headed towards recession. Our economy is in a spiral because lack of consumer confidence. People need to not to fear and go on with life as normal. Consumer spending drives over 2/3rds of our economy and when people are not spending it creates a snowball effect.  When people get laid off, they don't spend which results in more people getting laid off. (kind of good I decided to take Macro Economics this semester )This is the major thing I fear.

 
Terrorism can strike anywhere and anytime as with other similar events. While I do agree that a sporting venue or an airplane is may be a better target, it still doesn't mean it can't happen here. Just ask any of the 5000 people in the WTC, the people in the Oklahoma City Federal building or even the kids at Columbine if they thought were going to die when they woke up. Its part of life, and still I'm probably more likely to die in a car than anything else.

 
Still we can improve our safety and I think our goverment has things under control. I still thank god that I live here and not on the west bank or in the former Yougoslovia were death is a regular part of life.

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Geez Jeff I guess I never realized you were so young. You are right about it being your house.  I do appreciate the forum you provide and our right to express our opinions. However, we are each entitled to our own views. I try not to individually criticize any other member unless they do so first. The bottom line is nobody is right or wrong with their own opinion. You know what they say don't you: "Opinions are like a--holes, everybody has one." I will stand up for anybody's right to express their own opinion even if the basis for their opinion may be wrong.

*** This post was edited by coasterkingoftheworld on 10/4/2001. ***

Dam I did not expect this topic to become so heated, I was just wondering other peoples views on weather anyone else thought about a terrioust striking CP!  Its pretty bad what this counrty is coming o when people out there think that this is pointless!  A national tradgy has happened here and you KIDS have no clue whats going on due you.  This is stuff that will be in history books when you have kids.  Maybe that is what is wrong with today's society, the youth just don't take things seriously enough

pehaps if we just let them take mean streak we'll all be happy
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OMG! I just found out while I was in school today, the police sealed off all of Marblehead, (where I live). A guy escaped from the mental hospital in Sandusky and went into the post office here with a package. They asked the guy what it was and he replied "GUESS"! They sealed off the town, brought in the bomb squad, and arrested the guy. Our principal came on the P.A. at the end of the day and said the routes were back open now. When I came home my Mom told me about it. I can't believe this.....now it's happening in small towns! I know nothing happened (there was no bomb)....but still it's scary!  :(  :(
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Jeff,

I would disagree with you that Desert Storm wasn't a war.  For those guys over there, many of whom were friends of mine, it was a war.  Ever hear of Gulf War Syndrome?  It is real, whether the government will admit it or not.

My guess is that the average joe on this site probably doesn't have much of a memory of Desert Storm.  I was in college and there were a lot of us wondering if we would be drafted.  Fortunately, the enemy was easily pushed back (notice I didn't say defeated) and the war was short lived.

Now, I am not suggesting that the WTC tragedy anywhere resembles Desert Storm but I would bet our response will be less visible than Stormin' Norman too.

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pimpdaddy said:
Dam I did not expect this topic to become so heated, I was just wondering other peoples views on weather anyone else thought about a terrioust striking CP!  Its pretty bad what this counrty is coming o when people out there think that this is pointless!  A national tradgy has happened here and you KIDS have no clue whats going on due you.  This is stuff that will be in history books when you have kids.  Maybe that is what is wrong with today's society, the youth just don't take things seriously enough

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Well, pimpdaddy I will defend your right to say what you stated and your original post, but I can disagree with the statement "you kids have no clue whats going on due you". I think that the kids today do know what is happening. They probably understand a lot better than you think. Although I am not a kid (Age 43), I think a lot of them are more streetwise than I was at their age. I think some people have become so scared that they have stopped living their normal lives. It seems that it has caused such effect to the older generation more than to the younger one.
This doesn't mean that the younger generation doesn't care. They just understand that all the worrying in the world isn't going to stop some idiot or zealot from killing themselves in the name of their God in hopes of killing innocent others. Get back to normalcy, don't forget about what happened, just try to go back to your normal routine. Anything else allows some crazed zealots to accomplish their goal of paralyzing our society and fearing everything around them. 
They may even accomplish another end. To take away our freedoms as Americans because of our fear! We may end up passing laws making our country more like theirs and not keeping ours the greatest country in the land. Let's remain free, unafraid and vigilent. But, not become prisoners in our own homes or land due to fear. 

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coasterkingoftheworld said:
They just understand that all the worrying in the world isn't going to stop some idiot or zealot from killing themselves in the name of their god in hopes of killing innocent others. Get back to normalcy, don't forget about what happened, just try to go back to your normal routine.

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Well said! As a 21 y/o "kid" (I guess), this is exactly how I feel. This hasn't shaken my confidence in anything - I've flown twice since the 11th, I've made major purchases (to help strengthen my dorm's stereo, not the economy), and I'm *damn* sure going to be going to CP when time and money allow. I've been deeply affected by this tradgey, but I'm not going to let it ruin my life.

You learn from history, you live the present, and prepare for the future. Anything else is madness.

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How does this relate to anything?

Well, let's see - people out there are tyring to destroy our way of life. Something tells me that's a *bit* more important than CP. Cause if they succeed, waiting for CP to announce next year's plans won't be our biggest problem anymore.

If you find the topic irrelevant, don't read it.

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Midway Man said:
I can't believe this.....now it's happening in small towns! I know nothing happened (there was no bomb)....but still it's scary!

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I know this may not make you feel any better, but this isn't a case of "now it's happening" -- it's BEEN happening for a LONG time. I can remember when I was 8 or 9 (late 1970's) coming home from playing outside with friends to find my mom listening to the local radio broadcast describe the standoff with a sniper, right there in our "small town".

I know it's scary. Some of us have never seen this kind of stuff before. But it's NOT new (just more visible).

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"That was no war"

I beg to differ Jeff.. I was in it..

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Yeah, so was my uncle and one of my best friends. They felt it was more of a training exercise than anything else.

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That's ok... each person is entilted to their own opinion.. I have mine, and you have yours and they have theirs.... Which is part of what makes this country still, the greatest place in the world to live.

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*** This post was edited by Red Garter Rob on 10/5/2001. ***

Damn straight!