Terrorism.......

Do you think it could happen at CP??

You win.. the most pointless thread ever posted....

Congrats...

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MF total - 469 laps
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....and they say Americans are ignorant. What are they thinking?

It's a perfectly valid question.

Do I think it could happen? I think it goes without saying that it COULD. It could happen anywhere. Will it happen? Probably not. For various reasons, including the dramatic increase in security presence around the park. I think that could prevent some things from happening.

No.. it's pointless.. It has recently been proven that it can happen anywhere, without notice.

This topic, if even continued should probably be moved over to Coasterbuzz where Jeff was good enough to set up a forum just for the recent events.

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Well unfortunately not everyone is worldy and fearless as you are, Rob. Maybe a more appropriate response would be to answer the question instead of ragging on someone who just wants to talk about it and feel better about it.

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Duane Cahill
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As a real answer to all of this, as much as it could happen anywhere, CP is most likely not a good target. First off, it doesn't have the worldwide recognition as somewhere like Disney, nor does it have widely known trademark landmarks to it (yes, for anyone that knows the place it does, but for people around the world, no). Beyond that, to be blunt, CP or any park for that matter would not be a good target because of the way people are spread out in general. You are most likely not going to be able to kill a large number of people there as happened in NY. In addition, they are not a military, government, or business institution and would really have virtually no effect on life in the US if targeted. This is just my thoughts on the matter.

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I really should be working...

 I posted at the same time as Brain... so are posts are just like each other

pimpdaddy, You not the only one I heard ask this. On the day of the attacks during all of my classes the attacks was the only thing we talked about... and most teachers were asking how we feel and there were two kids who asked about if they thought Cedar Point could be a target. And those were high schoolers... so don't feel stupid for asking it... it is good to talk about thoughts on this kind of stuff.

I really don't think we will see Cedar Point or any other amusement park/zoo get attacked. If a planed crashed into any amusement park really nothing big will happen... Amusement parks are so big that if a plane crashed it might kill only a few people(plus people on board)... Just think Cedar Point fill to the bone on a Saturday in July is the same amount people that are usually in the World Trade Centers... and to kill almost everyone in the park it would take hundreds of plane crashes... when it took two to bring the Trade Centers down(thank God people were able to get out or it could have been worse).

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*** This post was edited by Andrew on 10/3/2001. ***

Funny thing about terrorists...

They're into high drama, it seems. At least the current crop of terrorists is. I mean, think about it: They crash airplanes into the World Trade Center, they make a huge mess, they kill 6,000 people, and they make a lot of people very angry. They honestly don't do a whole lot of damage. They make a big mess out of Lower Manhattan, they eliminate a couple million square feet of office space, they kill a lot of people, they get a lot of attention, but really on the whole they don't do a whole lot of damage.

Take those same airplanes and crash them into some carefully selected targets out in the middle of nowhere, though, and there would be no big mess, virtually no immediate loss of life on the ground, no dramatic images to show repeatedly on the news, very little immediate attention, probably an utter absence of the kind of moral shock and outrage we've seen in the past month...but the result would be to throw many of the nation's businesses into complete and utter chaos, probably for weeks. Do a heck of a lot more damage.

But it's unlikely to happen because it isn't dramatic enough.

Attack an amusement park and it's not only not dramatic enough, it also doesn't do enough damage for anybody to notice. Unless your name happens to be Young Man and your aim is to extort that particular park, of course...... :)

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Henny Youngman is an extortionist?
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Duane Cahill
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CP Track Record - 13 (too tall for Jr. Gemini)

To be honest, IMO, I don't think there's anywhere in this country thats truly safe. Downtown Detroit was shutdown the day of the terrorism. The Nation was shut down, because no one thought they were safe. And although things are safer, it's not totally safe.

And about dramatic images and such, I know there wasn't a camera situated on the Pentagon during the crash, but if there was, I would guarentee you would still see the WTC crashes/collapses more. Why? More dramatic.

Do I make sense?

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Wolfhounde,

Do not kid yourself as Cedar Point is known around the world more then you might think and if the terrorists want to kill people, then I think it could very easily happen at Cedar Point. Lets hope that we never have to find out.

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Just to stand up for Brian: We've had long talks about this recently because I was concerned. Honestly, if terrorists are going to hit a park, they'd get more people hitting WDW, although due to the large amount of foreign visitors, they're going to anger more than a few countries doing that. (Attack against EPCOT= attack on the world?) True, CP may be well known, but I get the feeling they'd hit either more than one or a park in a state like CA or NY. True also that we don't know and anything can happen, I'm certainly not going to worry about terrorism at "home." They might scare people away from parks if terrorism strikes but it isn't going to do the mass damage they seem to be looking for.
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Tony,
Had you clue one about anyone's profession, you would probably second guess your last comment pertaining to someone's knowledge of what benevolent Cedar Point has not only to offer but how well it's known. It would be wiser of you to first investigate before assuming the level of knowledge a person has.
And to reply to this riduculous thread as so melodically put by RGR, the only reason that Cedar Point would be a strategic hit for a group off terrorist would be if the beardy headed hijacker was so smashed on sauce and couldn't tell the differnce between the Power Tower and the Washington monument.
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*** This post was edited by Wade on 10/3/2001. ***

If a terrorist would attack an amusement park it would most likely be a bomb of some sort. This, if planned right, has the potential to kill thousands of people. Not only that, it would kill them when they were out havging a good time, showing they can live. This would have just as much of a devastating effect on the morale of our country. It would give the terrorists the "fear factor" that is their game.

I would bet on a sporting event more, however.

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Jeff said:
Well unfortunately not everyone is worldy and fearless as you are, Rob. Maybe a more appropriate response would be to answer the question instead of ragging on someone who just wants to talk about it and feel better about it.
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Jeff
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Jeff continuous talk about it brings more anxiety and fear to some people. I agree with Rob that it is pointless, because there is nothing you can do personally to stop it, except worry. Unless, you want to live in fear (as terrorist wish) you have to go back to a normal routine. Living in FEAR is not living at all.

That's easy for you to say when you're 43-years old, but not easy at all when you're 20. That's the generation gap talking. College-age kids have absolutely no frame of reference for this sort of thing. They have no war to identify with and never had to deal with the cold war. The security blanket is gone. Facing fear is the only way to overcome it.

As I said before, perhaps you could be a little more sensitive to the issue. If you don't want to talk about it, don't. But this is my house, and if someone wants to talk about it, we're going to talk about it with or without you.

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Perhaps I missed the nurse taking her rounds handing out stupid pills, but I always thought that Operation: Desert Storm was in fact a war. No, it's no the most extreme American conflict and was resolved very quickly, but I don't believe it's accurate to say that college kids have no frame of reference when it comes to national terror. Try explaining to a fourth grader that a bad man in the desert is killing people and taking away the gas for daddy's car.
Just because people aren't sensitive to your personal view doesn't mean they're not sensitive in general.
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*** This post was edited by Wade on 10/4/2001. ***

DBCahill said:
"Henny Youngman is an extortionist?

D'oh! I never thought of that one!

For those who are still in the dark, though...

I figured everyone here would know I was talking about Young Man, the guy in "Rollercoaster!" (Timothy Bottoms) who bears a vage resemblance to President George II...

--Dave Althoff, Jr.