Screamin' Swing

The spinning on maXair isn't even noticeable, really. Yes you are aware of the spinning, but I've heard no complaints of queasiness for it. It's a superior design in that it accomplishes the same thing and with a greater capacity.

*** Edited 8/10/2005 6:39:08 PM UTC by CP_bound***

So, CP_bound you represent everyone then, eh? I know people that have trouble with the spinning on maXair - I am one of them. I can only go on maXair 2 times in a row and then I have a little trouble shaking off that second time for a while.

Thanks halltd for that comment. I happen to think the Screaming Swing is a fantastic totally different ride. maXair is not a swing although it does swing back and forth - if that makes sense. The screming swing swings up to 120 degrees as maXair does, but totally different feelings - different sensation entirely. I have no trouble on the Screaming Swing. I loved the one at Dorney.

*** Edited 8/10/2005 6:53:06 PM UTC by cyberdman***

Out of everyone I've talked to or read reviews of their experience on the ride, you are the first person I've heard of who is effected by the ride's spinning.

CP_bound I'm not bothered by the maXair spinning until the ride is almost over and its rotating while slightly rocking back and forth to get back into its starting position. It doesn't bother me that much but I'm glad when that part is over. ;)
I'd be happy a Screamin' Swing over in Challenge Park and would pay the 5 bucks for a ride. *** Edited 8/10/2005 7:12:15 PM UTC by macho nachos***

That "spinny" effect is definately less for me on maXair than on some other spinny rides. Don't get me wrong - I like maXair and think it is a blast, but I have a problem on spinny rides. Not a puke thing, but an equilibrium thing for me - I will not throw-up, but my whole body is just uneasy and messed up. If I go on maXair only once I am totally fine. If we go it once and then on to other rides and then maybe ride it once again later in the day I am fine on that too. But if I ride it 2 times in a row - the second time toward the end gets pretty rough for me.

I about puked on Media Day, but then again that might have more to do with me shoveling in Game Day Grille steak and then running over to maXair for a live shot.

I think the queasiness might have more to do with the high g-forces than the spinning.

halltd said:
If you didn't even know what a Screamin' Swing was, how can you say it sucks? Have you ridden one? Also, how do you know if its similar to maXair? They're totally different technologies and maXair spins. Does the Screamin' Swing spin? uh no! So, people who get motion sick by spinning rides would be able to ride the Screamin' Swing, but not maXair. Come on people, think before you type!!

OK dude just look at it. It goes back and forth just like maXair. Screamin' Swings have low ride capacity while maXair holds 50 at a time. You still get airtime on both. maXais also twice as tall. Another thing is you get a different kind of ride everytime on maXair. Screamin' Swings would be a waste at CP because we have Ocean Motion, maXair, Power Tower(airtime), Ripcord, Demon Drop, and frog hopper.

Trust me you naysayers - Jilly and I HATE Six Flags - you say that because you obviously haven't been on one. Screamin' swings are quite a rush. It is not just another something that swings back and forth - they are air-powered launched and they are fast!

cyberdman said:
Trust me you naysayers - Jilly and I HATE Six Flags - you say that because you obviously haven't been on one. Screamin' swings are quite a rush. It is not just another something that swings back and forth - they are air-powered launched and they are fast!

Actually I have been on for thank you very much. I disliked because it sounded like so much fun. I waited in the line for 45 minutes. I would never do that again because it is a waste of time, money, and it has horrible seating capacity no matter what the size is. Cedar Point won't make a bad decision on NOT putting this.

I'd rather see more variety to the park. Screamin Swing is just too similar to MaxAir. If we get another flat ride, I'd rather see a Topple Tower, the exact opposite to MaxAir.

I can't believe what you guys are saying. Power Tower is the same as Demon Drop? maXair is the same as Ocean Motion? Are you guys insane? By that logic, we shouldn't have Millennium Force because its the SAME as Magnum. Oh wait, those are both the same as Blue Streak. They're all out and back coasters without loops. OMG what was Cedar Point thinking when they put those in? :rolleyes:

Even if maXair didn't spin and just swung back and forth, its a completely different technology than the Screamin' Swing. One uses air to propel you back and forth so its completely smooth and free of any "drag". maXair is totally mechanical meaning that you can feel it being pulled and pushed by the motor. Totally different sensations meaning totally different rides. Same with Power Tower and Demon Drop. I can't stand DD, but LOVE Power Tower. PT is just so smooth and silent and a great ride compared to DD.

You guys generalize so many rides, and then separate coasters out by individual elements and lift types etc... I can't believe that people even tried to say that those rides were the same. Frog Hopper? That was just moronic to even bring up.

If you're ranting about the capacity of a 32-seat Screamin' Swing... and how it wouldn't make sense for a ride with such low capacity to be put in.... this is for you:

Wicked Twister. 32 seats. One Train.

I HATE Six Flags said:

Screamin' Swings would be a waste at CP because we have Ocean Motion, maXair, Power Tower(airtime), Ripcord, Demon Drop, and frog hopper.

Gotta love the air time frog hopper gives ;).

Thanks again halltd - great post and I couldn't have even said it better. Also good point Gravity. Some of you totally miss the point that these 2 pointed out. Screamin' Swing is not about capacity - it is a pay-per-ride attraction. There is no need for a super high capacity on that ride. Hello, Mc Fly - has anyone ever heard of this thing called Ripcord? It has 2 "seats" on that ride. Of course 3 can go together at a time, but they don't pair up people on that ride and you can ride it single if you want.

The way 6 flag hater talks, I don't believe him. I don't think he has been on the ride. If he has, I'd like to know where - and why anyone in their right mind would wait in a line for 45 minutes on a pay ride is beyond me. That is about as brilliant as his last post.

Oh, I didn't know it would be a pay ride. If it was a pay ride people would say, "Why go on Screamin' Swing for 5 bucks while I can go on Ocean Motion or maXair for free?"

Hey Gravity WT's ride is less than a minute plus it is a roller coaster. And haltd, who cares if a screamin swing is air powered. Power Tower is air powered. Magnum and Millenium are way different. Millennium is a giga coaster while Magnum is a hyper. Millennium is 310 ft. Magnum is 205 ft. Millennium is 93 mph while Magnum is 72. MF has overbanked turns. Magnum has a pretzel turn. Also, Blue Streak is WOODEN. Oh yeah Power Tower and DD are the same. Go to the top and drop. maXair and OM are the same. They swing back and forth, except maXair spins a bit and is bigger.

I HATE Six Flags said:

Hey Gravity WT's ride is less than a minute plus it is a roller coaster.

<looks at my signature> Hey.. thanks for letting me know all that info on Wicked Twister! I never woulda known that had you not told me! </sarcasm> Wicked Twister's ride cycle is exactly one minute, just so you know.

My point is, if a 32-seat swing is constructed in Frontier Town, I highly doubt it will be an up-charge attraction. The capacity is plenty for what it is. We are talking about a flat ride here. How many people does Chaos hold? What about each side of Power Tower? Witches Wheel?

Hopefully, you see where I'm taking this. The capacity of the ride is not an issue here. I understand how much you are against the idea of a giant swing, but you need to stop making up other excuses (ie: capacity) to back up your case.

Further, your entire argument of comparing rides is made so that is convienient to your case. "Magnum has pretzel turns, Millennium has overbanks... so they're different" but "Ocean Motion and maXair are the same, Maxair just spins"... that entire argument has no logic. It can be completely flipped the opposite way: "Well, Millennium just took Magnum's pretzel turn and made them a little more banked, and it's just a little bit taller... so they're the same" and "Ocean Motion has forward and backward movement only, while maXair has the addition of a rotational movement while swinging. The amount of swing is much greater. They are totally different."

Think about how you're backing your argument from both sides, rather than just making it sound good for your case.
*** Edited 8/11/2005 7:01:49 PM UTC by Gravity***

I HATE six flags: Here's a word of advice. Do not ever join a debate team or try to become a lawyer. You have probably THE worst communication skills I have ever seen. I compared maggie, millie and blue streak because I thought you could see what I was talking about and how lame your comparisons were. Blue Streak is wood and Magnum is steel. Demon Drop is mechanical and Power Tower uses compressed air. THAT'S why they are all different rides. That's also why the Screamin' Swing is TOTALLY different from maXair and Ocean Motion. I truly am amazed at your incompetance.

Sorry to jump right in the middle of a heated (and very amusing) debate here, but it would seem to me that CP doesn't need to add another flat ride this year. Especially when you're talking about a screamin swing, considering they just put in maxair. Now, I realize that they may very well provide experiences as different as butter and sand, but the general public perception would most likely differ from that. And CP probably weighs public perception/reaction/marketability pretty heavily when considering a new attraction, be it a regular flat ride or a pay-up ride in ChPark.

Hey Gravity:

I have yet to get to Castaway Bay... do you recommend it? If so, is it an event for which one should set aside an entire day, or perhaps a half-day? Does it do well year-round, or just in season?
*** Edited 8/11/2005 8:26:30 PM UTC by djDaemon***

Jillly said:
I have no desire to see one of these at Cedar Point, much too similar to Maxair.

Have you ridden both? They are nothing alike!

Guess I didn't express myself correctly. I personally have no desire to see one of these, as swinging rides really get the nausea going (ie Ocean Motion, Maxair) moreso than spinning does, and this is a swinging ride. I don't think one of these would be added so soon after Maxair, aren't they both considered "flat" rides?