Ride Pride Allegedly Rapes 14 Year Old Cedar Point Employee

Absolutely true. Sad, but true. And in no way am I forgiving the employee working at Cedar's front desk that didn't check her ID (if that's even how she got in).

I don't believe she waltzed in the front door. I know several times people being sneaked in via other various methods.

I don't either. I'm just giving the alleged rape victim the benefit of the doubt.

But don't give the employee working the front desk, who more than likely did their job, the benefit of the doubt?

If the rape victim came in another way besides the front door, it wouldn't matter if the front desk attendant did their job.

No means no so obviously there is no excuse for what happened she's obviously a victim here but if she snuck in she was intentionally circumventing the safety measures that the park had already put in place to try to protect her from her own, and other peoples', poor decisions. It sounds like the park made the effort needed to try to prevent the situation from occurring.

I've seen people waltz past the front desk as well, I expect more information in the future, but we all will have to wait for the upcoming hearing for any information unless the accused decides to retract his original plea.

Chief Wahoo said:

A child's poor decision is generally viewed as different than an adult's poor decision. I believe there is a greater duty of care afforded a minor and if this young person's story turns out to be true then I suspect Cedar Point is going to be in some financial trouble, at the least, and may have to take greater precautions going forward.

You have to protect a minor from others and, often, from themselves.

(none of this is directed at you Chief Wahoo, just using your quote to segway into a little rant I have)

Good point they should put a security gaurd at each door and search people entering to make sure it is safe. Oh wait, if they do that people will complain that they are being treated like criminals.

I have noticed this alot on this forum and just about everywhere in this country. Something happens and everyone starts pointing fingers saying they should have done this or they should have done that. Then when people or companies do something proactive, people will complain and say they are infringing on my freedoms or they are treating me like a criminal. Everyone just needs to learn you can't prevent all cases like this and still be able to go about your day in a normal way.

XS NightClub said:
But don't give the employee working the front desk, who more than likely did their job, the benefit of the doubt?

Dude, have you not read anything I posted?

If the girl entered the main entrance to Cedars and she still managed to get through, then yes, that employee is at fault for not checking her ID. If she snuck in a different way, then no, it isn't any employee's fault. You can't just assume someone did or did not do their job. As thedevariouseffect said, there are many ways than one to sneak into that old ass building.

Dead Sexeh said:
Good point they should put a security gaurd at each door and search people entering to make sure it is safe. Oh wait, if they do that people will complain that they are being treated like criminals.

Generalize much?

I think you'll rarely, if ever, find those two groups of people overlap. Those of us who understand what a pointless exercise security theater is are typically very willing to accept some risk in order to not be subjected to said security theater. And that's because we realize that we're accepting the risk regardless; after all, security theater doesn't make us demonstrably safer, so why bother with the hassle (and expense)?

How many people want to place a bet on whether or not someone can just sneak into the Cash Control offices at Cedar Point without being detected?

I'm betting that is pretty unlikely. Why? Because financial security is a significant priority for Cedar Fair.

If safety were a significant priority for Cedar Fair then I suspect it would have been unlikely that the 14 year old could have got into Cedars.

I'm not one to typically point fingers at corporations or the government to blame. But, others have indicated how relatively easy it is to sneak people into employee housing and in the year 2015 with the numerous security technologies available I just think Cedar Fair needs to step up and take added precautions. Will they be able to prevent EVERY bad thing that could happen? Of course not. But, this is pretty egregious and as a father I find it to be disappointing and disturbing.

CoasterGuy15 said:
Heads up, both people made poor decisions.

I see what you did there.

Anyone can get into anyplace if they want to badly enough. Why not one main entrance (for all the dorms) and other doors exit emergency only. Then if someone comes in who should not them figure someone can figure it out.

Unfortunately, sometimes young people pass themselves off as a different age. They just aren't mature enough to understand the consequences. I had a daughter that worked at CP for 5 summers. Before she left to live there I reminded her that who she decided to be friends with and what she did could determine a lot about the rest of her life. I believe what I know from her is that CP can't control them off their property however, they can always offer good entertainment for them while they are there.

Emergency Exits are one of the ways people do sneak in, and not just at CP. The Colorado movie shooting is a prime example of those alarmed exits being manipulated.
It happens all the time as the exits have to be able to open almost instantly, sometimes with a slight delay, according to codes.
This happens at theaters, schools, concerts, etc...

So it may actually be better to have multiple staffed entrances instead of one main in certain cases.

Also Windows in the rooms are another way, kids will be kids and find ways around the system when they can.

It's always great to read that a parent takes the time to actually explain the potential consequences of actions to their kids, hopefully they do it in a manner the child can respect and not just rebel against.