Since I seem to be about the only "lifer" here that admits working there pre 2K, yes I think the "ride pride" has decreased, because it was a bunch of guys working at the same location gawking at the same women together - made for some interesting discussions, egos, just name it. It doesn't mean the efficency of the crew has necisarily decreased, I think efficiency has actually gotten better. For instance, crew parties will never be what they used to be, like when PTC had the "screw the crew party" in 98. The crew was all dudes, and we hooked each other up with a blind date, you could either be nice to your crew member and give him something nice, or you could "screw" it, and just give him someone he couldn't put up with. Those days are long gone.