Reasons Cedar Point is going downhill

TekGuy said:

The reason why the Causeway is so jam packed all the time, is because most people don't bother to use the Chausee.

You assume they know it's there. All the major signing does not point it out; it must be discovered.

The major signing does, however, call out the Causeway very clearly.

Well, if most people use a map in their travels the map should point out that there are two ways to get to the peninsula. Besides there really can't be many major signs calling out the Chausee because people live on that road, unlike the Causeway.

The Chausee used to be the main entrance to Cedar Point. So, there's no reason why they can't direct people coming from Rye Beach Road down there. Then again, I'd prefer they don't because it will get busy and won't be so nice for me. :)

Also, there's no reason at all CP can't be compared to Disney. I don't believe there is anyone on here that thinks they're identical properties. But, they are related. And, comparisons are to relate similar things. They don't have to be identical to make a comparison. 192 in Kissimmee and 250 in Sandusky are both main tourist drags outside of an amusement park. That's really all the comparison you need to have.

I just want to say about this about the economy in Ohio. A report was put out about 2 weeks ago about Ohio and it's economy. I live in DC and I was shocked to see how the people in that state put money in the athletic dept. and not help the people that are struggling. I think you need to look at your business that you work for, because an athletic dept for OSU is not going to help CP or any other business by placing it in college sports, and if you do don't you think you need to win a national championship when you are booting your statesmen out of their homes on forclosure? Just a thought.

CPBoy77,

No offense, but you, (from you info) don't live in Ohio. You need to live in the Sandusky area or be in it for extended amounts of time for more than just CP to actually notice these things. 250 IS bad, has been, and is a growing problem. You need to be in the drivers seat more often.

And no matter which route you take, 250 affects you. All traffic from 250 going to CP blends into one of two routes, and you're gonna be on one of those if you're going to the park.

The Causway was made 1957. I say all the people that are gonna stay at the Restorts, Soak City, and a few of the Employees will park in the back parking lot. Then a few of the side by the Marina there could be a few parking spaces for the Resturant people and Employees could park there too. Then they could Expand some of the PARK up front. I've heard they have owned land on the other side of Cleveland Rd on the other side of CASTAWAY BAY.

They can make a walkway over there and have a Monerail or a Bus to take people to CP from the Parking place if the rest of the parking lot is filled up.

I completely agree knoxdaniel. It sickens me to see all these people pour money into athletics and sports when their economy is taking a huge dive.

I'm just curious about this whole traffic thing on 250. How do those of you that say it is "terrible" propose to change things for the better?

The problem is not 250, it is that CP is on a penninsula, which means there is only a couple of ways to get there. This creates a bottleneck effect that slows everything down.

250 is the main artery into and out of CP, and as long as new businesses open along that route, the traffic is going to increase with the influx, of not only tourists, but shoppers from the surrounding areas.

-Tambo

For 5 years i had no idea 250 was there, i always took 2 i think. I turn right at the snoopy sign past CB. I was paying full resort prices for everything and i had no clue all the stores and restraunts were down there. When i traveled on it there was no traffic. I have never come in to cp on 250 so i really dont know what it is like at open and close. thats just my opinion though.

The problem with 250 is that it has too many access points. The more intersections and traffic lights you have, the slower overall traffic moves and the higher probability of accidents. Roads like that should have feeder or collector roads on the side and have only a minimum amount of traffic signals and access points on the main road. The feeder roads are of a slower speed and therefore less prone to major accidents. This also speeds up the flow of traffic on 250 proper. For tourists, there's less confusion because they don't have thirty traffic signals and different options of roads to chose. The visual clutter above 250 is reason enough for accidents.

The intersection of 250 and Perkins right at the BP is one of the most accident prone spots on 250. I also heard something about the city planning some major work on 250, anyone hear anything about that?

I think that talk about modifying 250 has been going on since last summer, at least, if memory serves. If they do ever get around to actually doing it, then I doubt it will be completed within one complete year.

^you are correct...kind of.

New traffic lights are being installed and re-timed for better flow and visibility, however, the city has only gotten approval for a study of 250, and major construction, if any, to widen 250 will not happen for a few years.

Theres a link to an article on that somewhere, but I know it was a long time ago that it was talked about.

Yeah, and saying 250 doesn't have a traffic issue is like saying a Big Mac is health food.

I don't think that 250 has problems just because of CP. It's the over-abundance of retail, the traffic lights and the intersections that make it what it is.

Even in the off-season, 250 is jammed now and then, but when I see cars and busses backed up all the way to Rt. 2 waiting to get to CP, I'm led to believe the problem is most definitely NOT the causeway

Well, when there are several accidents that cause all lanes on the causeway to close for up to an hour or more, that certainly isn't helping anything. But yes, the big problem is the mess of a main artery by call number 250. Like others have said, cut down on access points, and therefore intersections to stop the flow of traffic, and you help things tremendously.

Exactly. I was down on 250 on Saturday of closing weekend and it was just packed to the gills with traffic, all trying to get to CP I'd imagine - charter busses and the like. When I went down Pipe, and got to the causeway, everything was flowing like normal from there up to the booths.

I can definitely see how an accident on the causeway would destroy its "capacity", though. Much like 77 South here in Canton. There's pile-ups all the time that stall traffic for hours on end and it pisses me off on my way in to work.

Just put a huge park-n-ride lot on Rt 2 and train/light rail/monorail people to the Point. Bypass 250 and the causeway all together. It's not like anything on 250 is worth going to anyways. :)

For tourists, true. But when you live there a few months out of the year, B-Dubs, Burger King, and Taco Fish are necessities. :)

And think of how easy it would be to get there with NO traffic on 250! :)

Very true, very true...okay, you have me convinced, now where do I sign up? ;)

I have to say that I never felt like 250 was that bad.