Rear of the Trains

Dawson, the station can't physically handle 2 more seats. It's at its max as it is. I could see the wing coming back. The tires, maybe, although I wouldn't put it past them to just attach the wing. The engine wasn't really needed anyways, IMO.

It would be nice to see the theming come back for Halloweekends, but I highly doubt it.
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AKA Cobraroller on Cbuzz

i was just reffering to the drawing CtCF i wasn't sure if it added two seats or not, but my comment was based on if it did. When jonisneo wrote his comment he must have meant the back two seats that are currently on there, sorry for the misinterpretation.

I could see the engine being the least likely piece to come back with how much it weighs. It takes a couple people or a forklift to move one of those things around!

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James Draeger
*** This post was edited by Draegs 9/10/2003 7:21:43 PM ***

i hate to be a stickler, because everyone just seems so into the themeing of this ride,but i just see it as, whats the point? This is basically the only ride they have decided to theme, and it hasnt worked, and i think its time to let it go.

I would think that they would make the theming weigh less as well...i mean, those tires and engine are so heavy, atleast thats what i've heard...why not use fiberglass molds, its so much cheaper, weighs less if it ever falls off...again!...and, well, its better than whats there now.

And oh yeah, who is the hottie in the jonisneo gallery? Hubba Hubba!

Lemme know what you think.

pole-lock, I don't think ANYONE wants to see the Cedar Point Dragway WITHOUT Dragsters. Besides, I don't think ANYONE would want to see another Disaster Transport.

Does anyone have ANY reason why the tires were REAL tires?? Fibreglass and/or plastic should have been used.

All of you who have rode...I envy you, as I was unable to make it out to the Point this year.

Any info would be appreciatedl

CPcyclone is right Dragster wouldn't be the same if it wasn't for the themeing. The ride would be so boring without the reving of the engine, the smoke effect, the grandstand, the speed odmeter (sp?), the christmas tree, the christmas tree on the tower, and of course my favorite one that was taken off the Dragster tires, spoiler, and engine.

CP hasn't updated the pictures here. Maybe they plan to make it the same. The tires and spoiler do look good together but the engine makes it look better.

Can someone tell me where this location is where they put the themeing? Is it possible to get a photo of it without being on MS? If so does anyone have a pic?

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CP Coaster Guide Ride Count
TTD: 1; WT: 9; MF: 4; Mantis: 3; Raptor: 6; Mean Streak: 5; Magnum: 5

It would be hard to get a good pic from perimeter road of the themeing because it is behind all the wood. I did see yesterday that only 4 engines were back there and a forklift was moving them but that was when I was leaving so that is all I know.

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2003 Stats: Top Thrill Dragster: 12
Magnum XL-200: 55
32 trips to the Point

The trains look just like normal rollercoaster trains with fins in front without the themeing in back. The themeing even just the back fins and tires without the motor makes the trains along with the ride different from any other ride. After all, the ride is called Top Thrill DRAGSTER.
*** This post was edited by cp&le rr guy 9/15/2003 6:41:04 PM ***

Well. I think that the tires (weighing 150 lbs each) would cause many more rollbacks, which CP doesnt want right now. That, and the wheel fell off, if it hadnt landed in the lagoon by Iron Dragon, it could have easily killed a person, or more than one person.

How sad would that be? Just walking along at your favorite place and all of a sudden, a tire from 420 feet up slams into you and kills you...

I don't understand how the themeing causes rollbacks. The trains weigh 5 tons (10,000 lbs.) How could the 2 seats weigh less. One person could weigh 300 lbs. at max, 300 x 2 = 600 lbs, and the seats probably add another 50 or more, making it 650+. So if two seats weighing 650+ lbs. at max can make it all the way up the tower and not rollback, then why can't 2 150 lb. tires, a spoiler, and a fake engine go on the back. 2 tires 300 lbs., a spoiler 50 lbs. or less, and a engine 200 lbs. maybe. 300 + 50 + 200 = 550 lbs. 550 lbs. or 650 lbs. what weighs less?

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CP Coaster Guide Ride Count
TTD: 1; WT: 9; MF: 4; Mantis: 3; Raptor: 6; Mean Streak: 5; Magnum: 5

I doubt you're going to see the employees allow a train to dispatch with two 300-pound people in the back row though. I think a better estimate would be 450 total pounds during a heavy load.

As for the themeing, it weighs more than most people think. I don't know any actual figures, but I can tell you that the spoiler is the only piece of themeing that your average person can carry by themself. The tubing that supports the spolier takes two people and the engine takes a freakin' forklift to move.

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James Draeger
*** This post was edited by Draegs 9/18/2003 5:27:18 PM ***

Why does the engine weigh so much? That doesn't make since, a fiberglass engine would look just as good. As for the tires, 150 lbs. really isn't that much, it sounds like the engine is what weighed alot.

Another thing doesn't the ride calulate the weight of the train each ride and launch it at the right speed to make it over the tower? Why can't it just go a little faster with the themeing to make it over?

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CP Coaster Guide Ride Count
TTD: 1; WT: 9; MF: 4; Mantis: 3; Raptor: 6; Mean Streak: 5; Magnum: 5

*** This post was edited by Gomez 9/18/2003 9:47:25 PM ***

It's been said before, Top Thrill Dragster does not weigh trains at launch. The motor aims for a certain speed(120 MPH presumably), and when it reaches that speed, it turns off, disconnecting the train from the sled

And the point of fiberglass is not just so it doesnt weigh down the car, cause i think we've established it doesnt matter how much the train weighs, it launches the same speed...but if another incident happens where they fall off again, there wont be a 150 pound tire (or however much they weigh) and a 500 pound engine (or however much that weighs) falling towards a crowd of innocent people 400 feet below...its just over all safer, and easier to remove and attach to the train in the future.

Yeah, and i guess the themeing is cool, heh.
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Last night they were only loading the first four rows of each train, leaving 5 rows empty. That means they were only at 40% capacity for each train. Even with these precautions, there were more trains rolling back than were making it over.

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-Chris Woodard
Friday, September 18th, 2003 at 10:10 PM. It finally happened. Rollback on Dragster in the front seat of the gold train!