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Good point, but unfournately CP would pull this off before any upgrades to the bathrooms. I just guess I really feel strongly about making a technologic improvement that doesn't cost that much like something like this. I mean 2 screens would really do the job. One in Frontire Town and near Coasters. Maybe one at the Magnum park entrance as well. But if CP thinks they get rave reviews now and awards they would really go above and beyond with a little money and it REALLY is a little money to this company. Just think about it.
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^ O RLY?

If they won't spend money on improving bathrooms, then why has at least one bathroom location been re-done each year for the past couple of years now?

You would think the cost would be relatively low, but you have to remember that the labor involved with the setup of those screens would be incredible. They would have to have the display server in a central location. and bury cables out to all the screen locations, plus have someone dial everything in. Still a small investment compared to a coaster, sure, but overall, very labor intensive.

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I for one don't think it'd be very hard at all, especially with strategically placed wireless.

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Oh yay. Just what we need in that place, more wireless interference. :)

Announcements are going to happen this week I am sure!

That is something I did not know e x i t. I don't spend much time in the bathrooms.....Anyways, I can see maybe the actual install being labor intensive/complicated in a way, but the imput of data would not be a problem at all. Park Ops employees at guest services could imput them in every half hour 45 mins. no problem. They are there for the guest in the first place. And supervisors that are always walking around in their zones which there are 4 separate ones with at least 2 sups in each zone could relay wait times on the larger attractions that everyone wants to know about.

But I can see the complications of install but that can be accomplished over an off season anytime. Even with a "Project 2007" going on. Heck if they really wanted to go technical they could go wireless which won't get too much more expensive. Again, good thoughts, Those are just my Two Cents....


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^ O RLY?

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I'm not sure what CP has infrastructure-wise to monitor wait times. But, in addition to the screens, they'd need to install some park-wide monitoring system. If they're going to put ride wait times, down rides, etc...., they need a back-end system to run that all. Or, I guess they could hire an intern to sit at a computer and just update times manually. :)

^Back to my post at the top of the screen. Your problem would be solved.


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Nah, he's talking about actually tracking the "real" wait times, though. Not just putting out the little "1/4 hour" sign.

I like the way Disney does it, it's simple, yet effective as can be. They give a guest (who is not going in the single rider line) a card that's attached to a lanyard, and when you actually board the ride, you give it to the attendant there, who scans it or whatever, and it updates the time it took from entrance to boarding.


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Yeah you could do that, that would definately be the most effective way. I mean Disney has the line thing down to a science with the whole FASTPASS and the lanyard deal and the single rider line. But I'm saying with the sups not to have them look off the board b/c that is just what us lonely Ride Host put up and we always put up a longer wait than it realy was....Hehehe. The supervisors would look at the line in realvance to where it is and then they would make the determination on the wait time. Like if the line for TTD reached the first set of Pop machines the would be an Hour and a Half wait from what we use to calculate and the supervisors know these things. thats what I was getting at. But the landyard thing is barn none the best way to do that and then have the ride host call park ops and then they enter the data.


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The employees cant even take care of the line queues/trash/mist fans/dj booths how do you think they are going to be able to take care of LCD screens on every ride!? I would love to see it happen, but only if they were maintained. Nothing upsets me more than seeing a dirty dirty station, i.e. Mantis has soooooo much trash and nastiness in the water, gum, cobwebs it seriously looks neglected for years. *shrug*


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^hey slick. If you have read the entire thread you would notice that we aren't talking every ride. We are talking 2 or 3 stratigicly placed Info. Screens. Not every ride.

And one more thing to defend the ride hosts, would you really give two ****s if you were making $6.25 an hour? You know the ppl at McDonalds don't so why would they? It still doesn't make it right, but think, they are all young college kids thinking about Louies later that night and who is gonna walk them home from the bar. I know, I was one of them! LoL


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CP4eva'04 said:

e x i t english said:
^ O RLY?

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Now, that I read some other posts, I wouldn't put every ride on the screen. Only the rides that have major waits to them or break downs. I still think somehow they can do a wireless thing where a employee at the front of the line who sits there, programs how long the wait is. Then all through out the park it will show on the big screens. I think you would need at least 3 or 4. One in the front of the park (when you first enter), one by the front middle (where the train station is), one in the back (where the other train station is), and one in the middle (where Megnum is).

Also, each sign doesn't have to have the same ride on it. Lets say your by Raptor and for some odd reason theres a long wait, they don't need to show Raptor on the sign because your right by it, and they can show another ride instead of Raptor on that sign but other signs that are not by Raptor will show Raptor wait times.

Also, Cedar Point maybe could advertise some of their hotels or resturatns on the signs that are close by.

Plus, to the person who talked about the protable devices. That will be cool, but there will be too many people trying to take them on rides, and holding up ride because the ops will tell them to put it in lockers and stuff. That would be cool though.


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''megnum'' hmmm never heard of it.


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Wouldn't havning these monitors make wait times longer?

If everyone knew Sklyhawk was closed, they wouldnt walk back there, so they would go to MF, so more people would be at MF rather then walking through the park.

Cedar Point wants people moving around the park, if you happen to make a useless walk back to Skyhalk, and then head back up to MF you may (or MANY others will) stop and buy somthing along the way.

Its all marketing.

I like the idea of the monitors myself, but in the long run, I dont see it happening.

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Greg,

No, these wouldn't make wait times longer. It would, however, make people spend less time in the park. Think about that for a second. The less time you spend walking and waiting the more rides you get in and for the average person the more bored you get with being in the park.

Geauga Lake for example. I can't spend more than a few hours there because i've rode everything twice or three times each.

So, you are correct in a way about the impulse buying and such.


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I like your thoughts Loopy. Didn't even think of something like that. But speaking for myself and most ppl. who go to CP they are there for the coasters and giving them more time to consentrate on their favorite rides would allow them to stay longer and ride like you say you do at Geauga. I mean I would LOVE to ride Millie as many times as I could but I don't want to miss things in the park as well. But you do have a good point. I would think the best reason so far CP won't want to install them, I don't think CP is in the business of lossing money. But I still think it would Increase things for CP, but you did open my eyes!


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