No rides for dad

Do we need to break out the RATT records again? This conversation just keeps going round and round, and you're not getting it.

By the way, Harry Potter is at Universal, not Disney.

plw said:
...the only cost to them in relocating the seats outside the gate would be in revenue from people not entering the park...

Again, that's not necessarily true.

If you have the seats out there un-staffed, and "borderliners" find themselves to fit in the test seat, then the park is really on the hook once those "borderliners" enter the park and are denied access to an attraction.

If you staff the test seats, well then you're having to pay someone to perform a service for a very small percentage of guests (guessing here, based on my "walk of shame" observances).

This could all have been avoided had you read the park's policies ahead of time.

And again. It doesn't matter how easily or how well you fit in the stationary, bolted down test seat.

If the real seat, the one that goes 92, 120, 76mph, doesn't properly restrain you, then you aren't going to ride.

^Doesn't that bother anyone else?

I'm not referring to plw's problem, or the responses, but this right here.

I don't have this problem and probably never will. It is, however, a bit unnerving that they have the test seats, people use them for their purpose (sometimes on their own, without a ride host recommendation) wait in line, which can be almost 2 hours, only to find out that the specific seat they have chosen is not on par with the rest of the seats/test seat.

Sorry, but I call shenanigans on that.

It's very unfortunate, but it's difficult to avoid with fringe cases.

What they probably should do is adjust the test seats so that they give a "no go" response to those fringe cases. That is, if the seat belt length is the determining factor, and the actual ride has belts of a certain length with a +/-2" variance, make the test seat belt 2.5" shorter than the average ride seat belts.

Of course, such a solution would exclude more riders than are excluded currently. But at least those guests who would have fit in the test seat, but not on the ride, will be saved the hour or whatever. Plus, the park would be ensured of being on the "right" side in any related customer complaint (Sir/madam, our test seats are more restrictive than the actual ride seats. Had you tried the test seat, you would have realized you would not be permitted to ride).

While the current setup isn't optimal, there really isn't any solution that doesn't piss someone off.

PLW I have had enough of you your whiny and entitled. You may not see it but you are. If you put the energy you have used complaining about cedar point on this thread and other sites you would have already lost a few pounds. Iam just shaking my head at you how you would rather spend days and days complaining about a some dollars while you obviously need to do something about your condition.

"Its all Cedar Points fault and not my fault for letting myself go and not doing anything about it." what a sense of entitlement you have.

Dont think im some faceless guy on the internet. I would tell this to your face. If I can lose 20 pound in 10 weeks you could too.

Easy there, feller. Before you start venting about another contributor's posts, perhaps you should double check the quality of your own. :)

PLW-
let me ask you something. Would you demand a refund if you went to a baseball game and you couldn't fit in a seat? so why does Cedar Point owe you anything? they had the rides running safely. it's YOUR Fault that you couldn't fit in the restraint. just like it would be YOUR fault that you couldn't fit in a seat at a baseball game.

like alwaysrocking said the effort you have put in to whining and moaning about cedar point you could have been on a bike, treadmill, joined weight watchers, played wii fit.

your sense of entitlement sickens me. your lack of common sense is way more alarming. you couldn't make memories there with your family even if you could not ride? my grandparents used to tag along just to see the smiles on my brother and my face. you couldn't do that?

this should be a wake up call for you to drop some weight to avoid being "out" much more than a couple hundred dollars

Now, as much as I think the guy doesn't deserve a refund, I also don't think the repetitious "lose some weight" testimonies are appropriate or at all helpful.

Well well well, it seems DJ and I actually agree on something. I really didn't want to contribute to the thread with all the LOSE WEIGHT NOW!!1 without even knowing the guy. My dad is 6'5" 300lbs My oldman is 6'5" and could outrun most of the perps he caught while being a decorated officer of the law. If I hadn't told you how "fit" he actually is, would you just assume he was born on Nal Hutta?*

*bonus points to those who know what that is without resorting to Google. Yes, I'll buy you a $20 cookie at the parks subway

Dear God Jabba, you need to come up with a much more obscure reference than that to get it past us.

JuggaLotus said:
Dear God Jabba, you need to come up with a much more obscure reference than that to get it past nerds like me.

Fixed. ;)

I actually blew some snot out my nose at that, Brandon. :)

Then my work here is done. :)

Indeed. ;)

Well played sir. Well played.

For once Mike wasn't the one who made the funny. :)

Sometimes I just like to be funny on the inside. ;)

plw said:
There's no way a 38in waist rider is going on the Dragster, Millenium, or many other of the Parks premium coasters.

I can ride just fine. 38 waist.

Wow, talk about a thread dragging on and on.

Let me field some of this--yes, if you read back a few pages, I fit in the actual seats/pull down restraints just fine. They were made, originally, for larger adults. It's the seat belts that are the limiting factor. They were added in 2004 after some guy was flung out of a ride on the east coast, and have been adjusted several times since then, making them increasingly restrictive.

The only sense of entitlement here is that of CP, who feels justified in keeping a patron's money right after they walk into the park, regardless of whether a refund (or discounted replacement pass) is justified or not.

Not a good way of doing business if you want repeat customers, or recommendations. Amusement parks are a cousin of the hospitality (hotels) business, and judging by some of the travel advisor sites their on-premises hotels are also ranking low marks (reportedly run down, rude staff, etc.).

Park revenue as a whole has also been down, and you can't blame it all on the economy. If people have bad experiences, word gets out. I have read a lot of venomous posts about this issue.

I still haven't seen any good reasons not to relocate the test seats outside the gates, many of them are staffed at each ride right now by an attendant. Think of all the money CP could save by only having one attendant for all the seats--

Thanks again for the feedback.