Millennium Force is too severe for the non-fanatic
"IMHO The agreement that beginners DO have to learn the tricks to riding a coaster well and minimizing its negative impact on the body." -DaveTKoch
This is very likely true. I also am willing to bet your body adapts to coaster riding, physically, if you ride them enough - especially in your formative years. Fighter pilots do g training not only to learn the sorts of skills you speak of but to condition their bodies physically. I know this occurs in pilots - my uncle is one and knows all about this stuff. It only follows the same would occur with any human body regularly experiencing variations in g's.
This is very likely true. I also am willing to bet your body adapts to coaster riding, physically, if you ride them enough - especially in your formative years. Fighter pilots do g training not only to learn the sorts of skills you speak of but to condition their bodies physically. I know this occurs in pilots - my uncle is one and knows all about this stuff. It only follows the same would occur with any human body regularly experiencing variations in g's.
I was at CP yesterday, and I feel icky today too, dizzy and nausious (sp?). But I rode every coaster in the park yesterday except jr gem. I did feel pretty icky after i rode MF, but honestly, I think it was because that was the last ride I went on. THe biggest offenders? Mantis was my first ride yesterday, I had never been on it, and it was pretty bad. The worst was Raptor. I've been on it before, but this time i rode in the very last seat, and i blacked out at the bottom of the first drop until the end of the first loop. It was not an enjoyable ride. I don't think that cedar point is responsible for people getting sick, I was already sick and shouldn't have ridden it, and I guess i should have known it would be the worst in the back. Does cedar point have any information for guests regarding the forces that each ride has or which seats have the most intense forces?
Anyways, back to the topic, I think that MF was the coaster that contributed the least to my sickness today.
Anyways, back to the topic, I think that MF was the coaster that contributed the least to my sickness today.
I don't buy it.
Millennium Force is not a severe coaster in ANY seat. Okay, so I haven't ridden in the back row...but my point is, that ride does not subject riders to any forces any more severe or strong than those forces present on any other ride in the park. Just ask all those Physics students who were there yesterday...they'll tell you what many of us already know; that the most violent coaster in that whole park is the Wildcat.
My guess is that people who feel sick a day after riding Millennium Force are more likely suffering from fatigue, dehydration, sunstroke, and Cedar Point Feet than from any ailment that can be specifically blamed on Millennium Force.
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
Millennium Force is not a severe coaster in ANY seat. Okay, so I haven't ridden in the back row...but my point is, that ride does not subject riders to any forces any more severe or strong than those forces present on any other ride in the park. Just ask all those Physics students who were there yesterday...they'll tell you what many of us already know; that the most violent coaster in that whole park is the Wildcat.
My guess is that people who feel sick a day after riding Millennium Force are more likely suffering from fatigue, dehydration, sunstroke, and Cedar Point Feet than from any ailment that can be specifically blamed on Millennium Force.
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
That's so odd. Because Sunday, I rode both MF and Raptor in the very back seats. MF seemed powerful at the bottom of the drop. Raptor, on the other hand did not. Sure I got whipped through the inversions and what not, but I never feel any super G forces on Raptor. OH and on the helix. Maybe it's just because it was my first time on MF made it feel so intense.
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aIrtIme'S oVeRrAtEd...
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aIrtIme'S oVeRrAtEd...
Your body does adjust to rides as you ride them. I thought MF would take alot of energy out of me but i had about the same energy getting off as i did getting on. Last year I basically grew immune to raptor. the first half of the year I walked off disoriented feeling alot had been taken out of me. After the middle of the year turning upside down 6 times 4 different ways was routine and I felt the same as I did when I walked on. I knew everything that was coming (but still loved it) How do you figure I rode 23 times in one night. The more we ride the more we adjust.
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Raptor Flights: 5
Force Rides: 4
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Raptor Flights: 5
Force Rides: 4
My girlfriend pointed out that I began feeling crappy after riding only 3 rides - we came in for Starlight on Opening Day, and rode Magnum, Chaos, then MF. I felt bad after MF and not before, but just presumed it was something else bothering me. I hadn't been on Raptor, which is what you guys suggested would be the really bad one. I think it's most likely that MF was the cause of my problem. I can't know for sure, but I think it's MF. I'm not going to test this theory :o)
"the most violent coaster in that whole park is the Wildcat." -RideMan
That's fine, but Physics kids don't necessarily understand a thing about the human body. They're there to do physics and consider g force amounts. A sustained 0g environment like that of MF I'm sure sets your body up for disaster. Physics students aren't thinking about that, and no coaster in fact does this so I'm willing to bet a lot of people haven't considered it. MF could pull less g's than a lot of rides at the bottom and still be bad because of the condition of your body when you hit the bottom.
That's fine, but Physics kids don't necessarily understand a thing about the human body. They're there to do physics and consider g force amounts. A sustained 0g environment like that of MF I'm sure sets your body up for disaster. Physics students aren't thinking about that, and no coaster in fact does this so I'm willing to bet a lot of people haven't considered it. MF could pull less g's than a lot of rides at the bottom and still be bad because of the condition of your body when you hit the bottom.
But by "sustained" you're talking about fractions of a second when you compare to other coasters. If I had to guess you might have a full second of weightlessness on MF's drop before the pull-out begins. I would hardly consider that anymore sustained than any of the park's other coasters.
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Jeff
Webmaster/Guide to The Point
Millennium Force laps: 23
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Jeff
Webmaster/Guide to The Point
Millennium Force laps: 23
...and that's really the point folks here are trying to make. Some are just more susceptible to the type of acceleration forces on MF than others. The ride is NOT severe in any way, shape, or form. The spin 'n pukes like Chaos make a lot of people sick, but we don't attribute that to the "severity" of the ride.
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Dave McWilliams
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Dave McWilliams
I'm glad Dave said it finally!! Wildcat will subject you to far worse than MF will!!
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http://www.msu.edu/~armbrus9/cp.html
http://www.msu.edu/~levydust/mf.html
new MF photos
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http://www.msu.edu/~armbrus9/cp.html
http://www.msu.edu/~levydust/mf.html
new MF photos
Dramamine works great for me on the coasters, but I wouldn't go near Chaos, even with a double dose. By the way, if you're susceptible to motion sickness, forget the Dramamine and spend the extra couple of dollars on Dramamine II. It's the non-drowsy formula, and you won't walk around feeling tired all day.
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Duane Cahill
Coming soon to an amusement park near you.
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Duane Cahill
Coming soon to an amusement park near you.
why is Mantis apparently the Devil??? i like Mantis and MF was just about the least violent ride i've ever been on. even makes Magnum look rough...and as far as the postive and negative g's go...lighten up!! it's good for what ails ya!!!
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i'm back and my brain is still scrambled...
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i'm back and my brain is still scrambled...
since when were coasters starting to make everyone naucios? isnt that why they made spin&pukes? maybe it is just me, but i have no idea how people can get pukey sick from any coasters. i understand headaches, that "stomach to your throat feeling" and bruises from restraints. i never remember the time i even came close to naucious or puking when i get off roller coasters. if you have a problem riding them, there is one solution, QUIT RIDING AND QUIT WHINNING
-Mike
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"MOICHANDIZING! MOICHANDIZING! MOICHANDIZING!," Yogourt from Spaceballs
-Mike
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"MOICHANDIZING! MOICHANDIZING! MOICHANDIZING!," Yogourt from Spaceballs
Cause my best friend, my mom and I told Chris (SoopahMan) that Mantis is the devil cause we don't like it and told him not to ride it. :) :)
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Natalie
ATL Zone 3 Sweeps 2000
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Natalie
ATL Zone 3 Sweeps 2000
"The spin 'n pukes like Chaos make a lot of people sick" -DavidM
I would like to stress that I did not feel sick. My stomach felt absolutely fine. While my head felt terrible at the end of day 2 we went out to eat and I wasn't feeling sick in the least. I felt disoriented and confused.
I will also restate I'm not whining. I'm not going to ride another coaster for a while, and never one as tall as MF again. I just wanted to try to keep people who weren't ready for MF from having the same difficulties I had.
I would like to stress that I did not feel sick. My stomach felt absolutely fine. While my head felt terrible at the end of day 2 we went out to eat and I wasn't feeling sick in the least. I felt disoriented and confused.
I will also restate I'm not whining. I'm not going to ride another coaster for a while, and never one as tall as MF again. I just wanted to try to keep people who weren't ready for MF from having the same difficulties I had.
I have never got sick or felt like heaving on a coaster or a spin and puke ride, but as I stated on Raptor, and Chaos I get a bad headache from it.
One is never going to know how they might feel on a coaster or a ride untill they do it. Never got a headache from MF, but do on Raptor, but yet never got a headache from corksrew. So go figure!
I always thought I got the headache from looping, and twists, but yet some coasters with loops I can ride no problem, and others I get the headache.
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The more you ride it, the more you want it!
~~~Darla~~~
One is never going to know how they might feel on a coaster or a ride untill they do it. Never got a headache from MF, but do on Raptor, but yet never got a headache from corksrew. So go figure!
I always thought I got the headache from looping, and twists, but yet some coasters with loops I can ride no problem, and others I get the headache.
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The more you ride it, the more you want it!
~~~Darla~~~
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