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Frog Hopper King said:
Not even close. I have plenty of friends who work for chick-fil-a who would love to disagree with you. This is a huge misconception. you look silly thinking/spreading this.

Are you suggesting that CFA does not donate to discriminatory groups? Because their documented behavior would love to disagree with you.

I must totally misunderstand "discrimination"... That's not how I would describe it.

Luckily, we can correct that, since the definition is not a subjective one.

dis·crim·i·na·tion
The unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.

CP Maverick said:
I must totally misunderstand "discrimination"... That's not how I would describe it.

CFA, as a company, donates money to organizations that promote discrimination. How would[i/] you desribe it?

CFA, as a company, donates money to organizations that hold different views than you. That's hardly discrimination. I disagree with homosexuality along with all other forms of infidelity. I am not prejudiced against nor do I treat those people unjustly, but I am free to have an opinion different than yours.

hahaha "I disagree with homosexuality?" What does that even mean? Is homosexuality an opinion? a thought?

As a behavior. I disagree with smoking too. Do you need more clarity?

CP Maverick said:

...I am free to have an opinion different than yours.

Have whatever opinion you want, I literally could not care less. Force others to share that opinion, or to have to live a certain way that aligns with that opinion (including, you know, preventing same sex couples from marrying)? That's entirely different.

Those charity organizations don't have the power to strip rights away from people.

That's irrelevant. That they're donating money to achieve that cause is the issue.

So they're donating money to: "We hate gays and are going to strip their freedoms"???? What the hell are you talking about? They're donating money to a Christian charity organization that believes in the biblical, not legal, definition of marriage... among a hundred other things the organization does. But they are, like ANY other organization, allowed to have their own opinions. In this case, there is one specific issue that this organization considers immoral.

They aren't changing legislation.

CP Maverick said:
CFA, as a company, donates money to organizations that hold different views than you. That's hardly discrimination.

If a company is donating money to organizations that seek to bar various segments of society from their rights as citizens and under the law, yes, that company is supporting discrimination.

I disagree with homosexuality along with all other forms of infidelity.

[scratches head]
How is homosexuality a form of infidelity? How are two people who love each other and are devoted to each other a form of infidelity?

The most common argument, in the past, has been "how can you say gay marriage ruins the sanctity of marriage when there is rampant divorce in the country?"

My answer is: they're both wrong.

Hell the obsession with sex and sexuality in this country is absolutely disgusting.

And it's not about love. You are supposed to love everyone, all the time. That doesn't mean you need to sleep with them.

CP Maverick said:

They aren't changing legislation.

They are lobbying those that can. Quit pretending that because CFA/Salvation Army themselves aren't actual Congresspeople that their actions don't have consequences. Those organizations are spending money to prevent same sex couples from marrying. That is irrefutable fact.

And that's the issue I have with CFA/Salvation Army/etc. I don't care about their archaic, inconsistently literature-based opinions. I care about the actions they take that affect others.

Sorry for the double post...

CP Maverick said:
They're donating money to a Christian charity organization that believes in the biblical, not legal, definition of marriage...

And they are entitled to that belief. But in America, marriage is a legally defined institution, with legally proscribed benefits associated with that status. CFA donates money to organizations that seek to deprive gay citizens of those rights.....

They aren't changing legislation.

.....they are.

And those charity organizations did their best to block what decent human beings should consider a basic civil right. That was a fail.

Now CFA has concentrated their efforts to Christian Athletes. There's a lot less chance for an arguement or major backlash there. But to argue that it's ok for corporate money to go to any organization that promotes and encourages inequality, or better yet, equality under terms is ridiculous. (Would I have terms, tho? Yes I would. Mine are better in every way)

I find the equation to infidelity absolutely abhorrent. This is an example of definition that fits one narrow minded point of view.

CP Maverick said:
The most common argument, in the past, has been "how can you say gay marriage ruins the sanctity of marriage when there is rampant divorce in the country?"

My answer is: they're both wrong.

But so far, you've only been concerned with gays. It makes it seem like gay married couples are "wrong-er" than divorced straight couples.

So far that's the ONLY issue in this conversation that has varying opinions.

I still don't see evidence of "inequality" at all. "Equality with conditions" is pretty common in corporate USA... It'd be ignorant to say that "conditions" don'y apply to all parts of life. The debate is on WHICH conditions people are okay with and which they are not.

CP Maverick said:

And it's not about love. You are supposed to love everyone, all the time.

That attitude is part of what is wrong with the mindset in this country. You are supposed to RESPECT everyone, love is supposed to be special, reserved for special people that are significant in your life. Saying you love everyone waters down the emotion to make it meaningless.

Differing definitions. Respect is earned. Love is given freely.

And when we can't agree on definitions, how can we have a conversation?