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As opposed to northern bigotry?

There are many things that are regional and unique.

However, bigotry knows no bounds.

Oh no, that's quite true.
But this particular distinction is made when you're Dan Cathy from Georgia, run your business from Atlanta, your company scores a big fat zero in terms of inclusiveness, and you continue to contribute to anti LGBTQ organizations.

The remark about "Southern Bigotry" promotes inclusion? It's as bad as lumping all people of one ethnicity/lifestyle/creed or national origin into one category because they did/said/looked at you wrong etc, etc.

At no time did I or would I say that all southerners are bigots. But at Chic-fil-A they are southerners and in my opinion are bigots.
I recognize that there are northerners and many around the country who are bigots. Southern bigotry, however, is a thing, and in this instance it's the exact thing.

But if it will make you happy, I'll gladly change my remark to "Served with a heapin' helpin' of bigotry" and feel confident that my message will stay the same. My apologies to any southerners who felt wrongly included and any northerners who felt left out.

RCMAC said:

Oh no, that's quite true.
But this particular distinction is made when you're Dan Cathy from Georgia, run your business from Atlanta, your company scores a big fat zero in terms of inclusiveness, and you continue to contribute to anti LGBTQ organizations.

I believe you have proof to back your claims? I know many people who have worked for CFA over the years, and outside of whatever Mr. Cathy believes or does with his money, the company does not represent those specific ideals. Please prove me wrong.

Anybody can look it up.

Around five years ago Chic-fil-A, feeling the backlash from communities (markets) that were less than welcoming, fired off a charm offensive indicating that they have no agenda or issues against any particular group and franchisees were directed to "treat every person with honor, dignity, and respect- regardless of their beliefs, race, creed, sexual orientation, and gender." Good, right? Well, the rejoicing subsided and the waffle fry money went back in our pockets when the company failed to back up their claim with any LGBTQ-inclusive or anti-discrimination policies. It's not a hard thing to write up if that's really your intention. I worked for a company that had one.

And then in the meantime their IRS tax returns indicate millions of dollars are still being sent by the company to organizations like the Fellowship of Christian Athletes that impart strict anti-gay messages, and the Chic-fil-A Foundation that is dedicated to "helping every child be what they were created to be" sends money to groups that intentionally exclude and fail to recognize LGBT-identifying youth that need help. That's not acceptable to me.

This is not Mr. Cathy's personal money, it's the company's money. And besides, if he himself is not "the company", then who is? I don't know if your friends are high ranking there, or if they're behind the counter. To me it doesn't matter. Reports from gays that would like to advance within the company are that there continues to be a strong discriminatory climate.

I hope this is the information you were looking for, I wasn't making it up. Anyone here trying to argue with me about my beliefs on this subject is wasting their time.

RCMAC said:

Reports from gays that would like to advance within the company are that there continues to be a strong discriminatory climate.

This is a result of the large percentage of fundamental Christians that apply for and work for the company. The "discrimination" you refer to is not one of institution rather of majority opinion. Anyone knows that going "against the grain" will be met with resistance, voluntary or not. You are implying that the company has anti-gay policies in place, which is completely false. It should also be noted that the organizations that receive donations do have fundamental Christian beliefs which include anti-sin messages, but for some reason the benefits these organizations provide are completely overlooked because of some perverted virtue signaling about one very minor inconsequential view on personal choice. Of course, my views on homosexuality probably won't be welcome in this conversation as I can almost guarantee that your opinion differs from mine. Love the sinner, hate the sin.

CP Maverick said:

The "discrimination" you refer to is not one of institution rather of majority opinion. Anyone knows that going "against the grain" will be met with resistance, voluntary or not. You are implying that the company has anti-gay policies in place, which is completely false.

Oh, please. True, they don't have actual, prescribed policies in place, but they obviously tolerate (and perhaps encourage) discriminatory behavior. Which is the problem.

...one very minor inconsequential view on personal choice.

Inconsequential?!? You consider the denial of rights to be inconsequential?!? Well, I suppose if you aren't directly affected by them they aren't consequential. How Christian of you.

Of course, my views on homosexuality probably won't be welcome in this conversation as I can almost guarantee that your opinion differs from mine. Love the sinner, hate the sin.

Do you own any cotton-polyester blend clothing?

What "denial of rights" might you be referring to? Because I'm not aware of any human rights violations that have anything to do with this conversation.

How about the right to be who you are without question or judgement?

I thank God everyday that I sat for 33.5 years working for a company that had strict anti-discrimination policies in place. It allowed me to thrive in an environment that placed me amongst lifelong friends, (co-workers and managers,) from all races and walks of life, and that included plenty of fundamentalist Christians. We were all afforded glimpses into the lives of people who were not like us. It lead to newfound understanding, tolerance, and acceptance. Were my friends merely loving the sinner but hating the sin? Maybe. But my belief, based on actual evidence, is that the final takeaway for them was something different.

The more I look into the Fellowship of Christian Athletes the madder I get. Here's an organization that rallys young athletes around the idea that through the message of Christianity they will avoid the pitfalls associated with amateur and professional sports. I'm guessing things like the thug life and misogyny lead that list. And that's fine, I wouldn't argue that it isn't a good message for young, disadvantaged men.
But where my heart breaks is when I think about the young lesbian there in Kansas City who's parents can't afford to send her to tennis camp. Will they take her? Oh, probably. But her term will be infused with the sad notion that she shouldn't be who she is, peppered with a good dose of aversion therapy. (Through prayer, of course) They make no bones about their anti LGBT stance, and I can't for the life of me figure out what that has to do with quality of life through athletics.

So. These are things that I can't change. I'll die knowing that these things will exist as they have for centuries. I'm also grateful to have seen advances that include marriage equality for all humans in the U.S. And not because it's a blow to established religion, oh no. It because that's how it should be.
And in the meantime not a dime of my money will go into the coffers of a company that contributes to organizations that purport to better lives without including a message of tolerance and equality, or to a company that hides behind statements that don't include written, enforceable guarantees to protect their employees.

This is getting seriously out of hand, if there was even one remote instance of discrimination there would’ve been a highly publicized lawsuit featured on the nightly news probably more than the OJ trial.
I’m gay, own a gay dance club, I love the chick fil a, I couldn’t care less what the ceo of the company donates his own money to.

What does bother me is when other gays feign outrage over contrived offense in the name of faux tolerance while having intolerance for others beliefs.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sO-msplukrw#

If the queens can chow down on the chick fil a so can you.

When you think about the young girl in Kansas city and how she will feel/be treated, are you projecting your fears onto her? I can see why you would react that way. As you have probably experienced the same.

Thank you for offering to edit your post. The way in which you used southern as an adjective labeled the bigotry as uniquely southern.

Southerners are proud/not proud of their heritage and face discrimination as well. People think it's fine to make fun of accents, food, and ways of doing things. I think it's rude and reflects a lack of manners.

I mean I just think Chick Fil A sucks...It's sad when KFC has a better chicken sandwich, and meal price than you.

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2014/08/best-and-worst.../index.htm

Consumer reports disagrees with you.
But everyone has their own opinions and can vote with their dollars and rightfully so. That’s the beauty of captilism.
You love Busch Gardens Williamsburg, it’s beautiful I agree, but it’s not my favorite.

Oh yeah anyone can do anything, totally agree. I mean I hate Chick Fil A, my roomates love it.

One thing I think we can all agree on though is Cincinnati Chili is not Chili ;)

And on that we totally agree.

If you get to Nashville, try Nashville style chicken.
I thinks it’s awesome. Get it at an authentic local spot though.

Hot chicken and a Goo Goo cluster for dessert, now i'm hungry.

thedevariouseffect said:

One thing I think we can all agree on though is Cincinnati Chili is not Chili

But it is DAMN GOOD!!

;)

Another thread hijacked.