Maintenance Strike

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So my understanding is that its just carpenters, electricians, plumbers, etc., that are striking, not ride maintenance. I'm sure it's hard to find quality labor in the Sandusky area, so I wonder how long CP can go on with just replacements.


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Here's an audio clip of Janice Witherow from WTAM in Cleveland:

http://www.wtam.com/soundbytes/049%20Janice%20Witherow.mp3

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Here is todays Sandusky Register

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/cgi-bin/LiveIQue.acgi$rec=22291?frontpage

It looks like the Plummers aren't the only ones on strike now. The Painters Offically joined now.


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Raptorboy '00 *** This post was edited by RaptorboyJohn on 3/28/2001. ***
(just read more detail in the Register article...)

So indeed, it isn't even about the park's own staff. It's not that the park is trying to de-unionize its own operation; it just wants the ability to hire contractors who operate non-union shops.

This IS rather dumb!
(Not a word about what the painters don't like, I notice...)

--Dave Althoff, Jr.
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I thought that I read that of the five unions at the park, the only one with this contractors clause is the plumbers. Seems to me that if it's OK for four unions, it should be OK for the fifth? Of course, now I'm speculating.

Interesting to note that both sides agree money is not the issue. Also interesting that this is the first labor dispute in over 30 years (if ever?). That's a pretty good track record for BOTH sides and I think it says a lot for management as well as the employees.

My gut feeling is that this is a relatively minor issue that will be resolved with some help from a mediator.

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*** This post was edited by Gemini on 3/28/2001. ***
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And the beat goes on...

Read how Local 42 may ask for a region wide boycott of Cedar Point this summer at:

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?Avis=TO&Dato=20010328&Kategori=BUSINESS03&Lopenr=103280038&Ref=AR
This whole issue is silly, and I see no point to the little thing that the plumbers union wants except this statement made by someone in the union.
"We're concerned about the quality of work at the park if we're not there."

Why should they care? First off what he's saying sounds to me like non union work is inferior to theirs. Unless Pluming is specialized a Cedar Point, I see no reason why others couldn't do just as good of job. because a Union does the work does not always mean it is done better. They should be concerned, someone else is doing their work right now!

I also don't see how a boycott will effect anything. If the Media would go a little more in depth so we could at least see were CP is coming from (I'm sure its a good reason). The reporting so far seems short and shows little depth because I am asking myself a thousand questions after reading theses articles. Why would anyone care that the toilet they are flushing was worked on by a non union plumber? People are not just going to stop going for the sake of 10 plumbers who give silly reasons for wanting to fit every pipe at the point.


I just don't see what's wrong with CP's offer.CP wants to bid on the work. Whats wrong with that?




*** This post was edited by Joe E. on 3/28/2001. ***
Just speculating on my part...

Four of the five unions have the "union contractors only" clause. We don't know which of the contracts does not have that clause at this time. It may be that the fifth contract is not the plumbers & steamfitters contract, but rather one of the other four. Furthermore, we now know that the painters contract has also expired. We don't know why the painters rejected their contract, though it is possible that it's no more than a solidarity action with the plumbers, since they had supposedly already reached an agreement. I see two possibilities:

a) The plumbers contract is the first to have the subcontractor clause removed, and the park is planning to do the same with the other four. In which case, it might explain why the painters are now unhappy.

b) One of the unions already agreed to the possible use of non-union subcontractors, and the plumbers are the second in line.

It sounds like CP isn't trying to de-unionize their operation, but if this drags out too long that's exactly what will happen...!

--Dave Althoff, Jr.
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OK - I went back and read it again. You are correct.

"The plumbers ... did not accept the contract because Cedar Point wanted to delete a provision that guaranteed the park employ only union contractors for new construction work. This is a provision in four of the five union contracts."

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Getting worse before it gets better?

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/cgi-bin/LiveIQue.acgi$rec=22338?frontpage

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Huh?? So do I have to go down and hang the cars on the Ferris Wheel or what ? Jeff, you feel like painting Raptor with me next week ? Dave, start working on Blue Streak's track, I come over and help later.

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From my point of view it's not getting any worse. If I were the management of Cedar Point, I'd hire replacement workers and leave them there until the union caves. Those union thugs are demanding stuff they don't deserve. Non-union employees do just as good of a job as union employees for less money, so we as patrons of the park would benefit from the replacement workers. I don't know if any of you have any knowledge of what has been going on in Mansfield, but I do and I love what AK Steel has done with their union. They have been locked out since September 1, 1999. Cedar Point should do the same thing, we'd all be better off!
OH! I painted a couple houses before and I'm on Spring Break. I'll Work for ERT.

This thing has been blown out of proportion. CP is sticking tough and the unions should just give in to there very reasonable offer. I see the Union crying, going to court, suing, boycotting all because a couple pipes may be fitted by nonunion peeps who may work for less and do a better job.

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WTAM in Cleveland is reporting that all union workers are back on the job, except for the plumbers. The plumbers, though, have taken down their picket signs and a contract is expected to be signed on Tuesday.

Looks like they're back to normal.

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Whew! I was kinda worried the Blue Streak would be missing some of it's track! BTW, that would be a neat photo op...hint to anyone in the area
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It is Over!! Now the Overtime begins :)

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/cgi-bin/LiveIQue.acgi$rec=22788?search

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mf laps = 100! No More No Less!!

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