Loose Article Bins

Because loose articles find their way into foreheads of other riders at high velocities.

e x i t english said:

However, I don't see it being NEARLY that long. Raptor has always had bins, and the line has always moved along really steadily. I don't think it would be any different if you took those bins away, because they seem to hit interval most of the time no matter what.

Good point, I hadn't thought of the intervals. If you WERE to save a few extra seconds per train by removing the bins (assuming all riders to exactly as their told and behaving in a decent manner with their items and keep their carry-ons within reason and not cause a fuss), what would you have gained if the train dispatched before yours hasn't passed the next block? Those few seconds would be simply time the riders get to sit there all snug in the restraints of the ride, waiting to be cleared, thus the time saved is nullified due to the intervals the trains have to keep.

While I agree with the bins and see no problem with them, I do agree some people can get a little carried away with the things they bring with them. I have no problem with a backpack, so long as it's not carrying 100LBS worth of stuff and the person carelessly swings it around in line. I'd much rather people keep their stuff neatly in some sort of carrying device than try to corral it in their arms and pray they don't drop it all.

Maybe I've just had bad luck with CP and other parks with horrible wait times. Or, maybe its because part of my job is finding inefficiencies in processes. But, from my perspective, its more rude to be the person that makes an entire train worth of people (not to mention all the people behind them in line) wait for you to change your wardrobe and empty your pockets like you're at the airport. I think ahead and don't carry around all that stuff and I wear clothes appropriate to a theme park so I don't hold up the people behind me. That's common courtesy.

Of all the parks I've been to in my life, Six Flags is the worst at this. During my last visit to Great Adventure, I commented to my friend that it literally looked like a scene change in a musical between each train. It was really ridiculous. I just don't want CP to ever get to that level.

As a side note, I think I am more willing to be patient in line because I AM an enthusiast. The GP doesn't have that much patience when waiting for attractions they aren't totally psyched about. I studied crowd habits when I was an Imagineer at Disney. The longer your lines are, the unhappier your guests are. I've waited over 3.5 hours to ride Magnum, MF and TTD, so I can be very patient.

halltd said:
Maybe I've just had bad luck with CP and other parks with horrible wait times. Or, maybe its because part of my job is finding inefficiencies in processes. But, from my perspective, its more rude to be the person that makes an entire train worth of people (not to mention all the people behind them in line) wait for you to change your wardrobe and empty your pockets like you're at the airport. I think ahead and don't carry around all that stuff and I wear clothes appropriate to a theme park so I don't hold up the people behind me. That's common courtesy.

Of all the parks I've been to in my life, Six Flags is the worst at this. During my last visit to Great Adventure, I commented to my friend that it literally looked like a scene change in a musical between each train. It was really ridiculous. I just don't want CP to ever get to that level.

As a side note, I think I am more willing to be patient in line because I AM an enthusiast. The GP doesn't have that much patience when waiting for attractions they aren't totally psyched about. I studied crowd habits when I was an Imagineer at Disney. The longer your lines are, the unhappier your guests are. I've waited over 3.5 hours to ride Magnum, MF and TTD, so I can be very patient.

Exactly.

I don't mind waiting for a period of time on pretty much any ride, especially, TTD, but when people take things around with them all day and always have to take forever to put it in the bins, that's just not common decency. I like coasters, and I want other people to be able to experience the joy that I have when I'm at a park like the Point. It's when people go against that that I start to get upset.

Exactly how long is "forever" to put something in a bin. I think you are complaining about 10-15 seconds.

No, I meant people more aptly that get in but then have to get out and such, if you take 10 seconds to place it in and get secured, I really don't care.

While I think having the bins is overall a bad idea, I support them being there. It would be nice if people learned they don't need to carry every single thing they own around the park with them, but quite frankly, there are a lot of people out there who don't understand logical reasoning. Rather than putting up a fight with these people, CP is accommodating them with the bins. On most rides, the additional load time is probably negligible. Sure it causes more setups on rides like Magnum and ID, which is a big reason why I think the bins are bad. However, CP is just trying to meet the needs of a large amount of it's customers, no matter how illogical those needs may be.

I really don't think the bins are the problem. It's the idiot guests that get all buckled in and are still holding on to their loose articles, after hearing the announcement "all loose articles such as backpacks purses, ect... must be placed in the bin BEFORE sitting down", a thousand times!

If everyone does it right, there is no problem. The Magnum crew has done a great job this year with them. As they are checking restraints on the unload side, they ask the person next to empty seat if someone is sitting there. They skip it and continue and then come back after the person is seated and check them.

I agree with Ben about people lugging around their closets all day! I honestly get annoyed somedays wearing my waistpack. And all it has in it is my camera and other essentials. I couldn't imagine a backpack all day! On the days when I powerride Magnum, I put it in a locker just to have it out of my way.

Ralph Wiggum said:
t would be nice if people learned they don't need to carry every single thing they own around the park with them, but quite frankly, there are a lot of people out there who don't understand logical reasoning.

That is precisely what I meant. The point of going to the park is to enjoy the rides. If I want to take something, it's either attached to my person securely, or is left in the car/at home. Everything brought has a purpose, and is required to fulfil said purpose.

I'm just glad someone sees this exactly how I do.

However, CP is just trying to meet the needs of a large amount of it's customers, no matter how illogical those needs may be.

Unfortunately, that's part of the business. Discriminating against customers for stupid reasons (aka stupid customers, or more aptly having too much with them) ain't good business practice, now is it? *** Edited 7/23/2006 9:47:25 PM UTC by topthrilldragster4lyf***

What would you guys suggest I do when I return to Da Point. I were eye glasses and am blind without them. Are there any coasters that it is safe to were them on? and what should I do with them on the ones it isent. Just keep in mind, I come to the park alone, and cant leave them with anybody.

Thanks

And BTW, putting them in my pocket dosent work after my one trip on PR at kw. Lets just say I learned never to put them in my pocket the hard way on the Phantom's Bunny Hills
*** Edited 7/27/2006 8:27:05 AM UTC by Phantom 1898***

Use a tight fitting strap around the back of the head to ensure they do not fall off while riding rides.

Personally I think the loose article bins are a great idea and I think every coaster should have one. It saves you from having to rent a locker and it saves you from having to worry about what you are going to do with things that are not small enough to put in your pocket. Especially if there are only two of you and you both want to ride then there is no one to hold your stuff.

The SpeedZone or whatever the shop is near the TTD entrance, amongst potential others, sell the straps for under $2 with tax. Not bad, they worked wonders on TTD for me, after all.

This year, I wore a fanny pack for the first time ever. It was my savior. I could carry my cell phone, my inhaler, my camera, my money, and keep my glasses in there when I needed to. Keep in mind, I'm a girl and usually carry a purse. At 21, I didn't want to look like a grandma walking around with my fanny pack. However, now I wouldn't consider going back without it. If only more people would catch on.

I think the bins are awesome. I have never been held up by them. I wouldn't make it without them. I always try and put my water bottles in there, and pictures that are in a bag if I have bought them. Needless to say, my shorts dont have pockets big enough to hold bottles and cameras and such, that are important to me. Im sure there are a ton of other people that are in the same situation. It's hard to put stuff in a locker and then go to ride and have to come ALL the way back out of your way if you happen to need something.

As mentioned previously about Raptor, I think that line is one of the ones that moves the fastest.

Cargo Pants are the way to go. :)

I had my fanny pack days. Long gone though. Thank god! :)

I agree with Ben.

You said it, Ben. Mine are convertible, shorts really help in the sun! :)

Girls cargo shorts wouldnt hold no more than I could carry in my hand. The bins are mostly for females, I think. You males have it easy, you have the females to carry your loose stuff. :D

i've never gone to CP (or any amusement park for that matter) with a girl that had something she had to store in a bin. my friends must either be really low maintenance or great planners. :)

Well, for me, personally, I'm typically the one who gets stuck holding other peoples' things as they don't plan ahead and thus have open pockets, if any. However, I'm the kind who really doesn't mind and kinda gets used to being kind. Oh no, I just realized that I'm a terrible criminal! :p