Let's Remember Disaster Transport!

The bottom line with DT is that as a concept, the "bobsled coaster" never really took off. It was unique when it opened, but like many coaster concepts, such as the "tilt coaster", (in my opnion the flying coaster), the "looping wooden coaster", etc...it just doesnt stand up today. It's boring.

halltd said:

It all starts with just one light. Let that go, and it turns into 5, then 10, then 100. When a light burns out in my house I replace it. I don't wait until a handful burn out and then replace them all at once. That's just ridiculous.

yeah, but your house doesn't have thousands of lights to be repaired. Cedar Point does fix their lights. i'm just saying that one light is no big deal. when you have five out in one spot then I can understand fixing them. If one light is out in a house then I can undrstand fixing it so you can see.

Oh brother, I'm gone for a few days & you guys bring out the torches, running to DT screaming, "KILL the beast!!".

I'm back to defend it. I LOVE THE RIDE! And I also love TTD! So how can someone that loved the thrill of launching out at 120 still enjoy DT? IT"S A FAMLIY RIDE! There are few left at CP, so although, yes, the theming is less than par, & yes, ideally it should have been built somewhere else besides the lakefront property, for the hundreth time it serves a purpose. And I am not alone in my view or the lines wouldn't be so long. Most coaster enthusist's (you know, the kind that post on amusement park websites!) are beyond this simple ride, so just because ya'll don't like it, it doesn't mean it doesn't serve an important purpose in the park. So... :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97nGs0w-LJs

:)

I think I have to agree with what Coastern3rd said about the lights on Millennium Force simply from the standpoint that the colors just don't seem a vivid as I remember them.

Thriller rollercoast said:

yeah, but your house doesn't have thousands of lights to be repaired.

I also don't have a full-time maintenance staff at my house.

Do they wait for 5 bolts to need replacing before they change them out? I highly doubt it. Maintenance is maintenance. Take pride in your rides and make sure EVERYTHING on them works.

Thriller rollercoast said:

it sounds like you can't point out any major things about Cedar Points poor themeing. one light really doesn't matter. If they see 4 or 5 lights out all around the same area then yeah they would go and fix it. And weather you like it or not, Frontier Trail and Frontier Town are themed very good. The buildings all have their own unique look. It's themed western. The main midway has a classic look to the buildings, and Gemini almost always has both trains running. The only time MF lights don't work is when they don't turn them on. I will admit that Cedar Point has poor themeing when you point out something BIG that people will NOTICE.

Yeah.. you're right. I'm not pointing out anything major. Just a 310' lift hill smack dab on the coast of the park. If it were one light you might almost have a valid point. The fact that MF has a cycle it is supposed to repeat that does not work like it originally had is proof enough they don't care to maintain anything.

Why does everyone keep bringing up Frontier Town/Trail and it's theming? I never said it was not themed.. infact I never brought it up. Jeff did. Regardless, its pretty much grabbing at straws to say CP goes out of their way to keep up theming by mentioning those two areas. They require little to no effort to maintain.

Gemini does run two trains. Thanks for pointing that out. My original point was that they used to make it a competition. The ops used to pretend to push you out of the station. Now you might get a "Blue Train Wins!" or something from the op and that is a big might.

The main midway is a jumble of different architecture. You have a Main street USA theme on the west side and carnival games theme on the other. Sure is themed well.

I'm not knocking Cedar Point. Just pointing out the obvious.

You're still harping about the MF lights on a non-operating day? The lighting on MF is exactly as it was the day it opened. It hasn't changed. I've stood there this season waiting to photograph certain lighting combinations that come in the same predictable sequences.

You made a post of a few words that indicated CP doesn't maintain themes. Everyone else is pointing out that, DT aside, they do.

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Your simply choosing to pick one part of my observations and run it into the ground. Anyone here will tell that the last few years during operating hours the ride light cycle has not worked right. They neglected it for a long time. Just because I used the night before the park opened for the season does not mean it is the only time I have seen it. It just happened to be the last time I was at the park during the night.

That aside... Explain Dragster. While you're at it, what happened to maintaining any of the logos on the Corkscrew trains and the fact that Iron Dragon is now Yellow and Red while the station is shades of green and grey. Why do the trains contrast with the track? Keeping up with original theming I suppose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ad3fRYkYkk&mode=related&search=

Its a cool video.

I would not consider train logos and unmatched colors to be bad themeing. Just very unique;)

No, I'm not trying to pick "one of your observations" apart. You said the theme will not be maintained, I asked why, and that was your answer. And it's an inadequate answer because it generalizes with something absurdly irrelevant. If you have other reasons, then by all means, throw those out there.

And what is it that you keep going on about Dragster? Did they paint the entire ride black and white while I wasn't looking? Because it sure looks to me like it's all doing the same thing it always does. Sure they pulled off the faux engines and slicks, but that wasn't neglect, it was something that required extra work and cost to address a safety issue. It had nothing to do with theme.

As for Corkscrew, it hasn't had a theme in thirty years. The old 70's logo makes not a theme.

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You're jumping about. MF lights were neglected, TTD had to have a big part of it's theming removed because of poor planning, while Corkscrew may not be considered to have a theme it has been neglected and simply painted over, you forgot what I said about Iron Dragon and Gemini, we have been talking about DT, lights are an issue and you keep putting all that aside. CP neglects things. You can argue differently all day long. It does not change my opinion and countless others that CP neglects what they started.

I stand by my comment. The theming on Maverick will deteriorate and CP won't do anything about it. This is based on past observations around the park.

I was going to say the same thing about Dragster. Sure they removed the "theme" from the back of the trains, but as Jeff pointed out that was for safety reasons. I'd much rather have the added capacity we have today with the extra seats, then put any of that stuff back. The ride is just fine without it.

Also the lift hill lights on Millennium Force have been fixed/replaced this year and they are much brighter, they all work and it really looks nice at night.

Maybe Cedar Point should just spend the next several years of capital fixing all the things you find so wrong, and forget adding any new rides and attractions. But then someone would complain about that too.

I just say "Quit your Bitchin'". Go to the park and have fun, and stop picking on all the negative. And if all this stuff bothers you so much, then stop going. More space in line for those of us that can enjoy the park as it is!

^ no. Infact that was a pretty dumb answer. Do Cedar Point a favor and quit telling people not to go.
*** Edited 6/27/2007 2:07:51 PM UTC by Coastern3rd***

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/theme%20park

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/amusement%20park

Now kids, which one does Cedar Point fall into?

My sister used to work DT last summer. She kind of developed a relationship with the ride. I enjoy the ride, but when I get in line, we like to sort of make fun of it as we wait. it's nice to get outta the sun, and see the black lighting. The ride itself is not as exciting as the biggies outside, but we make it fun by just having a good time in line and on the ride. sometimes we would get the front seat and pretend that we are doing driver's ed as we go up the hill!! I would be the instructor and my friend would be the "bad driver". It's always so funny and it adds us the hype of the ride.

But I have looked up old Avalanche run pics and tried to see what the ride used to look like. When i was born, it was still avalanche run, but if my parents took me to the point then, there is no way I would remember seeing that ride from being pushed in a stroller!!

My sister used to work DT last summer. She kind of developed a relationship with the ride.

Really. ;)

I am amused by the title of the thread. I'd much rather forget this hunk of junk of existed. It's literally embarassing to have it at Cedar Point. When I take new visitors to the park I always hope they wont notice it (although who can miss the ugly warehouse in the beach).

Ugh.

I tell you, I would LOVE to hear what is discussed about this ride at CP planning meetings. I would imagine there is some type of split amongst the board...much like this thread.

I would actually donate money to help it be taken down, it's that bad.

So the lights on Millennium Force have been fixed? At the end of last season, I think several were out, and the colors looked very faded. It seems to me this was true on opening day too. I havn't been there in several weeks, so it is possible that they have fixed it.

Back on topic - Your transport from CP to Alaska is loaded with highly unstable Vol-i-tol fuel and the flight is sub-orbital. The robot D.A.V.E. speaks to you directly, to itself, and to the pilots on the communications link. One pilot tangles with space pirates, one is dealing with a defense satellite shooting lasers at them and another is erroneously navigated into a jungle crash landing.

Just before the lift hill, the overheating sign would spray a smoke/fog, and a light would strobe rapidly. The hot, smokey air and stobe lighting gave one a queasy feeling.

At one point your ship flies through a hole in another spaceship.

The helix goes around a big prop that matches the defense satellite in the video. It is supposed to be shooting at you and had laser-gun sound effects.