Hyperloop to Cedar Point

Hyper loop is going from Pittsburgh to Columbus to Chicago. Not cleveland!

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/hyperloop-transportation-t...04283.html

I was just reading the link Pete provides, this says a feasibility study from Cleveland to Chicago has been authorized.

It’d be interesting to see the route the choose, if it’s along the existing interstates, perhaps a Sandusky exit isn’t too far from reality. It’d be interesting to know how close to the smaller cities they could provide service, and if they needed to build nearby stations would the municipality provide bussing service to the city or in the case of Sandusky, would CP provide bussing services?

Another likely right of way that runs directly along that route is the railroad. I know Amtrak doesn't own the rails, but the route of Cleveland-Sandusky-Toledo-Chicago is the same the Lakeshore Limited. Leasing the air space above/beside the railroad would be an easy way of getting a contiguous path without having to blaze a new right of way, which would be a five-year process, even before construction begins.

If this all happens, I will call the Sandusky depot will be on the old American Crayon factory site.

^It is not official yet and there is still one other site in the running, but the American Crayon site is already the front runner for the new municipal court and police station in Sandusky. Not saying the site isn't large enough to possibly also be a transit station, but I don't see your prediction happening.

Also, I don't think a hyperloop tube will work along some of that same route as the existing rail corridor. With some of the existing overpasses it would just be too tight of a fit.

I think this is mostly going to be underground. If so, overpasses won't be an issue, and if part of it is an elevated rail, I think they would just build new overpasses since I'm not even sure the current rail bridges could even support these.

The Hyperloop is not underground, it is an above ground elevated structure.

Underground would be enormously expensive. A huge trench would need to be dug or use tunnel boring machines. All the bridge work is what makes me doubtful about this whole thing.

https://hyperloop-one.com/blog/hyperloop-included-25-million-columb...pact-study

Pete said:
Jeff, what makes you feel there will not be a stop in Sandusky?

Because it's not intended to do short distances. The cost efficiencies come from uninterrupted distance.

And lulz to people who doubt Musk. Sure, he's basically gifted the concept for others to use, but his track record is generally one of success, apart from unrealistic timelines. And now he's digging tunnels economically under LA, as a science project.

Hyperloop is never going to happen, anywhere. Too expensive. Too risky. Too dangerous.

How about we invest in proven technology, you know, like high speed railways?

Jeff said:

Pete said:
Jeff, what makes you feel there will not be a stop in Sandusky?

Because it's not intended to do short distances. The cost efficiencies come from uninterrupted distance.

That is assuming the criteria is only economic, there is a lot of politics involved in this thing that may override things like maximum efficiency.

There are also two competing companies for this thing. Hyperloop Transportation Technologies has the most traction and the most support, plus I think they have superior technology to Hyperloop One. The Cleveland to Chicago route makes the most sense as Cleveland is Ohio's largest economy. Our dim witted governor however is supporting Hyperloop One and their proposal of a Pittsburgh - Columbus - Chicago phase one route. They don't have the corporate sponsorship however and I think their proposal will wither and die while the HTT proposal has a real chance of becoming reality. You need a strong private and public partnership to get this done and HTT has it.

PyroKinesis09 said:
Hyperloop is never going to happen, anywhere. Too expensive. Too risky. Too dangerous.

You know how many people have said this and been wrong over the course of history? I’m generally pretty conservative but things like this I’m behind 100%.

I would really like to see this happen. Not because either route would benefit me directly, but because the US needs this kick in the pants.

Meanwhile, I'll stay up here in Michigan and watch our politicians argue over basic public transit and wonder why Amazon wouldn't come to a region that hailed the Q line as a great success.

Pure Michigan - The Q Line

Also, thanks for the mention of the American Crayon Company. Made for some interesting reading learning a bit of Sandusky history I was unaware of.

PyroKinesis09 said:

Hyperloop is never going to happen, anywhere. Too expensive. Too risky. Too dangerous.

I'm glad the people who invented and kept improving the automobile, train and airplane didn't have this mentality. I really wouldn't want to be riding a horse to work everyday.

As much as I would love high speed rail as another travel option I think it's days as a possibility for the US are done. This is the route we should take.

I'm sure if the US isn't the first to make these happen countries like Japan or China will. They will exist soon enough on this planet.

I'd like to see a Hyperloop built even if it doesn't stop in Sandusky... When travelling, it's nice to have alternatives to driving my own car...

WolfBobs said:

I'm glad the people who invented and kept improving the automobile, train and airplane didn't have this mentality. I really wouldn't want to be riding a horse to work everyday.

As much as I would love high speed rail as another travel option I think it's days as a possibility for the US are done. This is the route we should take.

I'm sure if the US isn't the first to make these happen countries like Japan or China will. They will exist soon enough on this planet.

You can't compare this to the invention of the car or plane. A more apt comparison would be building a bridge between Alaska and Russia over the Bering Straight.

That's not a good comparison at all, the Hyperloop doesn't use any kind of remarkable structure to hold the tube up, certainly not anywhere near building a bridge to Russia. Comparing it to developing the first airplane is a perfectly valid comparison IMHO. It was really hard to develop the first airplane. To people in that time period, today's 787 Dreamliner or A380 would be something space aliens would fly.

Sandusky should hold out for a Gigaloop anyway.

Or a stratoloop.