Hyperloop to Cedar Point

The employee aspect is interesting. Chicago and Cleveland employees could commute to work without the need for housing at CP.

This Great Lakes Hyperloop initiative has the most support in the private and public sector of any proposal to date. The more information that comes out makes me think this actually has a chance of being built.

Rusty said:

WolfBobs said:

It could work and if I was CF I would definitely back the project as it would probably boost attendance with ease of access from people in Chicago, Toronto and even New York if this thing gets fully fleshed out.

It's ironic to think that a person living very close to a NYC hyperloop terminal could likely commute to a job in Chicago in the same or less time than a typical counterpart living in one of the boroughs might take to get to a job in midtown Manhattan.

Also, if there was a Sandusky terminal, could that maybe solve CP's seasonal employee-pool shortage?

Actually I meant people would use the hyperloop to VISIT Cedar Point as a guest thanks to it being quicker and easier to get to.

But yes, the commute time in the Cleveland to Chicago scenario is 28 mins, factor in another 30-45 to get to and from stations and a person could get a job hundreds of miles away and commute daily.

Pete said:

The employee aspect is interesting. Chicago and Cleveland employees could commute to work without the need for housing at CP.

Interesting because it'd never make sense. Who would spend hundreds of dollars for their ticket to only go work and make hundreds of dollars?

I wonder if there was a study done on the negative effects not having your personal vehicle on the local businesses that survive off the CP tourists if this hyperloop came to sandusky?

Clearly CP would provide transit busses from the terminal to CP and back. The loss to business from visitors no longer traveling through Sandusky could be substantial.

I've seen a few articles, including from Business Insider saying a trip from San Francisco to LA would be roughly $20....which is about the same time wise from Chicago to Cleveland.

Yeah, at maximum capacity there would be a capsule leaving every 40 seconds and the system is inexpensive to run. Ticket prices would be low enough to make living in Cleveland or Chicago to go to a CP job practical. And, from the guest aspect, many more people would be in easy range for season passes.

I would also assume many companies would cover the cost of hyperloop commutes in employment agreements, or reimburse employees. If someone doesn't work that in their employment agreement they're doing it wrong.

Personally, from an amusement park fan stand point, being 30-60 mins away from parks like Canada's Wonderland, Six Flags Great America, or more sounds very tempting.

This truly could be the next big innovation in travel if it becomes reality.

Day trips to Six Flags outside of Chicago with less travel time then it takes me to currently get to Point? Yes, please!

These will never happen as envisioned. The curvature of the system at that speed would need to be so slight that it needs to be an almost perfect straight line. Also, unlike the way a conventional train is run, these are end point to end point. I do not believe there is a way to place intermediate stops without powering down the whole system.

Also the construction margins on these tube will need to be incredible precise, thus raising the cost.

Another article has it stopping in Detroit, also.

Hyper Loops would make a good name for a kid’s cereal.

The technology has advanced quit a bit. They (HTT) have a full size test track where significant development has happened to the point where HTT says it is insurable technology ready to be built and operated. I'm sure most of the track will be straight or near straight, but curves are possible probably by banking. After all, airplanes are able to change course at cruising speed and they naturally bank, Hyperloop will probably mimick that with the track banking.

Those who say a hyperloop is never going to happen are a bit pessimistic. If 10 years ago you would have told me that somebody would be landing 1st stage rockets on dime and reusing them I'd have said you were crazy. 15 years ago if you would have told me that battery operated cars would not only be in full production...but popular...I'd have said you were nuts. 30 years ago if you would have told me I'd be carrying all the world's porn in my pocket....well...I would have given you a big hug.

After you washed your hands of course!

^^ Yes Chief Wahoo, I am one who is quite pessimistic about it. It sounds neat and feasible, and technologically possible and I would love to see it happen. It just seems to me that there are always great ideas floated out there that never gain traction, perhaps this one will. Heck, they are even going to test "self-driving" tractor trailer trucks on the Ohio turnpike, who would have imagined that even 5 years ago! Who would have ever imagined a Cleveland pro team would ever win a championship? Sorry Crunch.

I'm skeptical this hyperloop or any will come to fruition for a handful of reasons. Short of me writing a short research paper, I don't feel I could effectively communicate my thoughts on this subject. I'll sum it up as, Musk has very big dreams but there's this thing called reality.

The company providing the technology for this project has nothing to do with Musk. The basic concept that Musk came up with was open sourced so that other companies could use the concept and develop it. Hyperloop Transportation Technologies (HTT) took the concept and developed it into a practical system. HTT is the technology provider for the Great Lakes project.

My thought is that building this would be cost prohibitive. I imagine the cost to build this would be astronomical.

After looking at this I think no one has pointed out the biggest problem with the whole project.

To make this work will require a lot of land, land already owned by people. What if someone doesn't want it running through their area? Then the Federal Government steps in and then the whole thing goes to pot.

Last I heard the Keystone pipeline was moving forward. Growing pot along the route may help fund it as well.

The advantage of hyperloop over trains is that the pods are small. Just because a particular pod stops on a side tube in Sandusky doesn’t mean that all pods would stop there. The majority would stay on the main line. Yes, the investment is large, but, I see it as being far more effective than any high speed train.