Huge Disappointment

I may not be as experienced in Cedar Point as most people on here, but I believe that in all my years of living, I have not heard so much belly-aching from wimps that can't fit in a seat-belt! If you can't fit because of ride manufacturer's regulations or Ohio laws, or even Cedar Point's rules, please, kindly get up and walk off the ride quickly.

I can't count how many times I've sat on a ride waiting to go because someone was beligerent and figured that the rules didn't apply to them. I would just love it if they would just accept the fact that they can't fit the ride.

Maybe in the future, they will change the belts again, and bigger waists can fit the rides once more, but I do know this... If I grow two more inches over my shoulders, I won't be able to fit Mantis. So I am waiting for that day, if it happens, I will not be able to ride my favorite stand up coaster.

On that day, I will accept the fact that I may never ride Mantis again, and QUICKLY get off the ride.

Here Here!! I was close on MF earlier this year when I went so i've been "watching" my weight. Im a big kid but if/when the day comes that I can't ride, I will like topthrilldragsterfan said exit the ride quickly. If you can't fit becuase you are "overweight" than fix it. There are these cool little things called DIETS. Not only can you then fit into the seats, you are also a bit of a healthier person.

It's true, complaining will not enable you to ride the ride. If you are either too tall or large to ride a certain ride, it's unfortunate, it really is because I have sympathy for you, but you're going to have to accept it. I know that there are people who have weight problems and can't control it, and obviously people can't control their height, but unforunately you're going to have to accept it.

As was discussed over and over last year, this has nothing to do with losing weight or going on a diet.

Well...the ride obviously can't adapt itself to fit you, so you have to adapt yourself to fit the ride.

I guess I'll have to start shaving down my legs if I wanna fit;), kidding. I mean, if your too tall, then that is just unlucky, in this case. I had horrible problems fitting in maXair, since my shoulders were scrunched on the restraints. So, I know how you feel. But, they (Cedar Point) can't cater to everyone's sizes and needs, that'd be impossible. You're going to get people that are seven foot tall and people that are three feet tall, that's how humans are. The ride ops being insensitive and cruel? sounds like tunnel vision.

-S. Eagle

IMHO, the more people who go away angry/pissed off and start talking down CP, the sooner we are going to see the seatbelt issue resolved. Nothing makes CF respond like the bottom line.

I'm not saying we're there yet, mind - the company is still doing well - but in reality this is going to be the only way that the seatbelt issue is going to be dealt with. If the park was at at all interested in actually dealing with the problem, they would have done so already rather than muck about with auto-spiels on Maggie.

Not wishing ill on the park or anything, before I get flamed out of here by the hard-core flameboys/fanboys, just stating my view of the matter.

True. A nice big negative response would help alot. The only problem is...can they get one big enough? Probably not. To many of the GP and Fanboys/enthusiat/addicts can still fit. And as long as they see the line at 45 minutes or longer they don't know something is "wrong". The height and weight issue is just something to deal with. Don't the design the trains and such to fit the "average" person with some give at either end? If this is the case the people in the "extreme" ends can't ride. I.E. Uber tall or "wide".

Like I said before...Being close opened my eyes thus telling me i need to slim down which i have done a wee bit. I haven't been back to the back since but it'll be interesting to see if it helped.

Again, sorry you couldn't ride and are upset about it. Maybe in the future all the problems will be solved and technology and chemistry and time will have created a seat that form fits to every person who sits in it. (Note to self: Work on self adjusting seat to every body type.)

If you complain, complain to Intamin, not CP. As was mentioned before, CP is bound by law to do what Intamin tells them to.

FluffyliketheForce, the line is 45 minutes or longer due to stacking. ;)
FrontierDale if enough people complain to CP they would be more likely to demand a solution from Intamin.

The simple fact is that he was able to fit in the test seat, but not able to fit on the ride. Making the test seat the same specs as the actual ride specs shouldn't be rocket science.

Yeah when i was there in late june, people in my group including myself had trouble on Magnum(I'm nearly 6'4" and 180lb). On that ride the problem was legroom and my knee banged against the car every drop due to the small amount of legroom. This is also a problem with TTD, MF, Magnum, Mean Streak, and Gemini, there isnt enough leg room for anyone over 6' 3". Although on MF and TTD if you sit in the second row of the car or the front row of the train there are slots for your feet to go and this helps alot. If this was done on all of the trains at CP people 6'4"-6'5" could comfortably ride everything.

Also I have no trouble riding Wicked Twister, Vertical Velocity, or Deja Vu which someone earlier said they had trouble riding and was 6'4".

Hopefully future sit down trains will continue to have these slots which are caused by the teired seating. And the only way for tall people to ride Magnum and Gemini is to sit in the front row of the car.

Jeff said:
What crawled up your ass, John?

Oh, you know. The usual.

Small, woodland creatures, maybe a duck or two.

SFGA=Toilet try riding in the front of the cars. They have more legroom by a long shot.

FrontierDale said:
If you complain, complain to Intamin, not CP. As was mentioned before, CP is bound by law to do what Intamin tells them to.

That's a cop out and you know it. Cedar Fair buys $25 million rides from Intamin. Don't pretend that they have no influence on the company.

I'm sorry Walt, but the argument that you can ride everything other than Millennium Force and Dragster and that some how makes it OK is not a good argument at all. Those are the park's signature rides, and a reason to go there instead of, say, SFGAm. When you add in the embarrassment and poor treatment of people it magnifies the problem. When I visit a park and can't ride something because it broke down, that's a bummer, but no one was there telling me I couldn't ride because of my size.

And I have noticed that women are at a disadvantage because most of them have hips. I haven't been on the ride with one that didn't fit, but they sure do struggle more than I do, and none of them are what I'd consider overweight.

I don't disagree at all (and I never argued that). This is about Millennium Force and Top Thrill Dragster. If we strip away the exaggeration in the original post, we're back to the same valid discussion we've been having over and over for two years.

His complaint was not, "I can't ride Millennium Force and Dragster." His complaint was, "I was able to ride two rides in the whole park and nothing else."

By removing the big two from my original discussion, I attempted to explain that the complaints about rides other than those two are largely industry issues.

But I completely understand the Dragster/Force issue. I agree it's a problem, etc. (as I mentioned in that first post).

I am confused on how people bring height as a problem on not being able to ride the coasters at the Point. I am 6'5" and have never had a problem riding anything do to my height. Especially Millennium Force!

For the seat belt rule, I think I know why (Don't hold me too it). The person who was ejected from Superman did so because he was too big for the T bar restraint to work correctly. Intamin or Cp or whatever came to the conclusion that to know for sure if the T bar would work correctly on each guest, they needed an easy check way to make sure a guest wasn't to big for the T bar. The way, the seat belt has to fit with 1/2 inch of slack. If they can get 1/2 inch of slack, the T bar will work correctly, if not, then the T bar has a chance to fail. I don't believe it actually has to do with the seatbelt working, but with making sure the T bar will, by measuring with the seatbelt. Of course, thats just speculation.

Jeff said:

FrontierDale said:
If you complain, complain to Intamin, not CP. As was mentioned before, CP is bound by law to do what Intamin tells them to.

That's a cop out and you know it. Cedar Fair buys $25 million rides from Intamin. Don't pretend that they have no influence on the company.

That may be true, but the blame still lies with Intamin and their pointless overreaction to the Superman death. At least the brunt of the anger should be directed toward them. Could CP be doing more about it? Probably. But they can't be blamed for obeying the law. *** Edited 8/1/2005 3:46:19 AM UTC by FrontierDale***

Nonsense. Consumers don't pay Intamin.

Race for the Fry said:
The person who was ejected from Superman did so because he was too big for the T bar restraint to work correctly.

No, the guy was ejected because the people running the ride were morons, and the people maintaining the ride put seat belts on it that were ridiculous in length. Read the report. It's online.