Height & Reasons for Quick Construction

I think I have uncovered the reason for such a rush in going vertical. One of my mom's employee's husband(sounds crazy, I know) is an electrician working on the new ride. I guess he says that the state or national gov. is trying to pass some type of safety law restricting coaster size, due to the new rapidly growing coaster heights. I don't know how true this is, but if it is true CP has to get this ride finished before the law is passed, otherwise they're screwed. Along with this, he also says that the ride will definately be in the 400' ballpark. I'm not positive on its credibility, but it doesn't sound like something somebody would just make up out of the blue. If it is true, lets wish the guys good luck building this thing quick.
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Enjoy your ride on the Big Bad Bug

Someone else posted this too, but he wasn't the most credible person. I don't know what to think, because, for one, they are perfectly safe at any height, and two, if you fall from 100 feet, you will die just the same as from 1000 feet.

I heard this too when I was at the point a couple of months ago. I didn't know him personally, but he seemed like a reliable source...
If this fact is true, then that really sucks...
*** This post was edited by Millenium Force Maniac 10/12/2002 4:24:57 PM ***

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UR_coaster said:
I don't know what to think, because, for one, they are perfectly safe at any height, and two, if you fall from 100 feet, you will die just the same as from 1000 feet.

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That is very true, and i agree...but what i think the're more worried about is airplane clearence. Just a guess.

I didn't think about that. You could be right.

I'm thinking the restriction in hight is because people think that this is going to lower G's, But really hight has nothing to do with G's! I just hope they think before they end up saying yes.

Actually, I was doing a little web surfing and I think their main concern is the g's, because they're claiming excessive g's are causing increasing injuries on thrill rides. This sucks.

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Enjoy your ride on the Big Bad Bug

I saw on CNN a short while ago that New Jersey passed a law limiting G forces on coasters. Didn't hear anything about height though. The FAA already regulates the height of everything within the flight path of an airport, including coasters. They wouldn't put a limit on coasters outside of flight paths unless they regulated buildings and radio towers too.

edit: Here's a link to an article about the law, courtesy of a Phillie tv station: http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/news/09152002_nw_coasters.html

--James
*** This post was edited by jdoty 10/12/2002 5:37:40 PM ***

If you start the pull out high enough up, the g's can be the same as with any other coaster.

This should be brought up for any dumbass journalist or congressmen (we know who they are) that think that an increase in height automatically means an increase in G's...

The 50 foot tall Wildcat pulls more G's than the 310 foot Millennium Force. I don't see the correlation.

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July 11th: Korn, Puddle of Mudd, and Deadsy

Well, there's no national law pending dealing with coaster size. Rep. Markey's bill is (as usual) buried in committee, and the congress has more important things to worry about anyway.

And I know of no state law pending in Ohio, and it seems highly unlikely. CP, PKI, and (to a lesser extent) SFWoA are all significant tourist attractions, especially to a state like Ohio. The state house and senate won't be eager to act on legislation that would damage this business.

Besides, any legislation would likely be modeled after the NJ law, which limits G-forces, not height and speed. But this prospect is unlikely, since further studies that have come out show no correlation between physical injury and coasters (operated properly, of course).

Actually no. Wildcat pulls what, 3-4g's in sudden jolts.

Millennium Force pulls 5g's for ALMOST more than a scecond.

No, it doesn't.

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June 28th: LocoBazooka Tour (Sevendust headlining)
July 11th: Korn, Puddle of Mudd, and Deadsy

The Cedar Point g limit is 4.

Yeah, I'd love to see some proof of that. Another example of haw easy it is to say anything on the internet.

Cedar Point has a "g limit?" Just like they have a cheese on a stick limit, right?

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- John
My B&M T-shirt: Fact or Fiction?

So what this new law in jersey regulates over 5.6 g's for more than a second, cedar point has a limit of 5 as you say, so what does it matter. i dont think it will be much different, but then i have been known to be wrong.

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Don't Steal, The Government Hates Competition!

I have seen news reports stating that some states are talking about regulating coasters. Mainly g forces. All because the amount of injuries and deaths are going up at a high rate now that coasters are getting bigger and faster at a higher rate. I can't remember the number of deaths but I do remember it being rediculisly (sp?)small compared to how many people ride these things. Most of the people who are injured or killed are people with health problems or are just old and really shouldn't be on a coaster anyway. But even so, I don't think Ohio is even considering a restriction, it's possible CP might have that in mind here. They could always decide not to let the states have control over thier own restrictions and put a national restriction in effect. But I agree with mk468zz and think that the they have more important things to worry about than a small number of deaths on roller coasters each year. I just don't see this being a problem for a few more years.

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-Mike

The Fast and the Fearless

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Michael Darling said:
Just like they have a cheese on a stick limit, right?

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"We're sorry, sir, you've had two already, we need to cut you off for your own good..."

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--Greg
My Home
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There is no increase of amusement park deaths. Quite the opposite. Check out this site from the Consumer Product Safety Comission:

http://www.cpsc.gov/LIBRARY/Amus2002.pdf

That's the government's report on the safety of rides. They state time and time again that there is no trend. (page 19 lists the actual numbers)

(hehe, hope this doesn't count as site advertising Jeff, I know that's against the rules. I'm just trying to back up my claims with real evidence).

--James