Guests of Exceptional Size

Hey Blue Knight..Classy (?) remark...
My problems with fitting in has NOTHING to do with a fork...it is the fact I am almost 6'6" tall..Try to ride Mine Ride and fold your legs into that ride or a few others previously mentioned.

vegasbaddboy -- Disaster can be a problem for larger guests because the seats are narrower and there is very little legroom unless you sit in the front of the cars and can cross your ankles to ride. Same problem as CCMR, really, but the bars aren't as high so it is excentuated a little bit. The good thing is that the lap bar only has to click once and you're okay to ride. I've had guests on the ride where the lap bar won't move at all, and we can't let them ride because technically they aren't restrained.

CP has all the seatbelts as an extra precaution against liablity. To my knowledge, they're orange because that can be easily spotted by the ride ops from a distance (across the platform, as the train is moving, etc) in case they're not fastened. And of course, they make such a lovely fashion statement, how would we cope without them?

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I'm not a big person (i'm about 10lb overweight). I'm also five foot ten. I have a problem fitting on DT and CCMR. So it's not just people with weight problems. The rides are just a really really tight fit. I'm offended by the "put down the fork" comment. Highly offended. It was totally uncalled for. One day when you find yourself 20 or 30 pounds overwight or more and you can't fit into your car without moving the seat back a notch or two there will be somebody there who will be willing to give you a ride to work in their minivan. All because you, the intolerant person, was too hungry to "put down the fork."

There, i've vented...

One trick that I've used with some success on CCMR is to ride solo, sitting in the middle of the seat, straddling the lap bar. Doesn't help if you're...er..."prosperous"...but it does help if the problem is long legs. One word of caution, though: When the lap bar comes back to its latched position, the upright of the T-bar *touches* the front edge of the seat, so beware!!

Only trouble is, sometimes you get an attendant who doesn't want to allow you to do that. Probably for fear of the caveat I just listed.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Yeah... but Nat the Cat is our ATL this year.. so we have "one of us" in charge... a fellow GTTP'er

"One of us.. one of us.. one of us.."

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MF 2000 - 269 laps

MF 2001 - ???????

does anyone know the reason they dont have the "extender" belts for someone needing a couple of extra inches? I remember seeing them used on the Vekoma SLC's before,but have never seen them on a B&M.
I,personally haven't had any problems with Raptor or Mantis (except one time on Raptor after eating). I joked with ride-op saying "I didn't eat that much!"
I have noticed that the belt lengths vary from one B&M coaster to another.Even if ride is same design. For instance,when getting on Batman at SFMM last year,it took 3 ride-ops to get me fastened! Talk about embarassing!!! Jim was just laughing his butt off! I thought I had gained weight over winter,but realized I didn't when I went on Raptor and had no problem.
They do need to add a test seat at the Mantis entrance.They probably don't have one since they didn't have safety-belts when it first opened.
-jerry-

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jerry@magnummania.com

I believe that the reason vekomas have extender belts and B & M's dont is a major difference in design. Last season on Raptor, and this was a very rare occurance, there would be a guest who was so large that the harnest did not even click once. The first click on Raptor is pretty low. If the harnest has not clicked, an extender belt is pointless. Now at SFDL on the vekoma slc, as soon as you begin to pull down the harnest it begins clicking, even if the harnest is still horizontal it has clicked. B & M's seem to have a much different desing than Vekomas. Hope this garble has cleared it up somewhat. hehe..14 days til I'm back on raptor!! ~A

My fiance can ride every ride but Raptor. Wonder who they don't have the Big Boy seats that I have seen on every other B & M invert? My fiance also can't ride SLC's either. Where is the 'extender belt" on these? Is it just on certain seats like the Big Boy seats? Thanks!

Having seen what the difference is with the 'big seats' on the B&M coasters...

I don't understand why they don't either make the safety belt an inch longer, or do away with the big useless foam wart on the front of the shoulder bar. The 'big seats' typically allow the bar to latch into the same notch as on the normal seats...it's just that the bar *just* latches into that notch instead of being pulled halfway to the next notch by the safety belt.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.
Who can't ride in the B&M 'big seats' without getting sick...

Magnum is the worst for knee cramming! I am fairly short for a 22yr old male, and 20lbs. overweight. Overweightness has never been a problem for me at CP, but as a short person (5'5" tall)my knees do get bumped and banged a lot on Magnum. I usually take the front seat on Magnum which has a lot more leg room than the other seats do. I can only imagine what it must be like for a tall person on Maggie. Second is Blue Streak. The problem here is those orange lap bars. The way they are bent, they always rub up against my knee making some rides uncomfortable.

I finally saw my first 'big boy' seat last year at 6 Flags Great America. It was on Medusa. (Which is basically the same coaster as Kumbaa in Busch Gardens.)Both made by B&M. I was able to sit in both the big seat and the regular seat. There seemed to be only one difference between the two seats. The harness is an over the shoulder with a 'pointed area' at the crotch. On the regular seat, the seatbelt buckle was directly on the point. On the big seat, there were 2 belts and the buckles were on the side of the point, it seemed to give maybe another 5 inches. The seat itself didn't seem to be any bigger.
Looking through pictures I noticed that Mantis doesn't seem to have a belt anywhere. I hope this is true. I want to enjoy a stand-up coaster. Everyone I have been on has a crotch belt (for lack of a better term). When I try to buckle it, I end up bending my knees slightly. This always happens just when the operator locks the seat in place. I end up having an operator pack me in the ride and I have to go through it with bent knees. Stand-ups aren't fun in that position. You end up having to put your weight on the little banana seat... for a man, it's SO not comfortable!


*** 9 MORE DAYS!!! ***

Bad news, Chuckers...Mantis was the first B&M stand-up to get those safety belts. :(

--Dave Althoff, Jr.
Who can't ride Mantis anymore.

Bad news, Chuckers...Mantis was the first B&M stand-up to get those safety belts. :(

--Dave Althoff, Jr.
Who can't ride Mantis anymore.

The string of profanities that just came out of my mouth would make a sailor blush....

oh well... someone is just gonna have to pack me in!

*** 9 DAYS!!! ***

I know this isn't CP, but on SOB yesterday my friend bairly fit into the seat. One thing is that there is no leg room, also its hard to get your legs in between the bars.

I also must add and second with Jeff, FLIGHT OF FEAR is now one of the best coasters!
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Crady Crady!! CRADY CRADY!!

What qualifies someone to be of "exceptional size?" Are we talking about a certain weight or height?

I think it's a combination of what physical characteristics are considered exceptional for what type of coaster. Different rides have different limitations!

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PO!NT OF VIEW - A Different Look at Roller Coasters
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When I say exceptional size I mean weight in particualr concerning girth. I was asking this question becasue MF has a girth limit of 46" and I wanted to compare that to the seat belts on other rides.

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