Grooming policy
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Even though I have no interest in employment I have a couple questions. Please tell CP management to get with the times. I am speaking for the males. Why cant they have earrings and why cant they have long hair as long as its groomed right or in a ponytail? This old fashioned way of thinking is dead. As long as a person looks clean and well groomed, than it should not matter. Heritage in certain areas which I hope CP has, involves different hair styles and body piercing. I see that they have problems filling positions. Maybe if they loosen there restrictions on appearance then they wouldnt have that problem.
The personal appearance of staff is a very important part of our overall image. To our guests, the employees are Cedar Point.
To maintain a family atmosphere at Cedar Point, the park maintains that set of grooming guidelines.
Cedar Point and Cedar Fair are known worldwide for its policies and that is what seperates us from other amusement parks.
No Cedar Point doesnt have any problems filling positions. Like most parks, the beginning and ends of seasons have less staffing because schools and colleges are still in session. There are times where we are over staffed through most of the summer.
To maintain a family atmosphere at Cedar Point, the park maintains that set of grooming guidelines.
Cedar Point and Cedar Fair are known worldwide for its policies and that is what seperates us from other amusement parks.
No Cedar Point doesnt have any problems filling positions. Like most parks, the beginning and ends of seasons have less staffing because schools and colleges are still in session. There are times where we are over staffed through most of the summer.
Thank you Rob. =) I agree of course. The image of Cedar Point and Cedar Fair is extremely important. I recall my first season when a foreign employee was going on and on about this issue. He insisted that the United States was not free because Cedar Point had grooming guidelines. I took one look at him and said, "Who held a gun to your head to sign that contract?"
It is important for the image of Cedar Point to be kept at the highest standards. As Rob and every other foods employee who's been to training this year can attest to, its going to be a rough year. We've heard stories after stories of what the Raptor Year was like and the last thing we need to add is problems with grooming. So I'm asking all employees reading this please not to give us huge problems and just come to work in compliance with the policies. Is that so much to ask?
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--Meg
--Lee is Cake, 4 go, The Aliens have Arrived!!
--http://www.geocities.com/gullysprincess/
It is important for the image of Cedar Point to be kept at the highest standards. As Rob and every other foods employee who's been to training this year can attest to, its going to be a rough year. We've heard stories after stories of what the Raptor Year was like and the last thing we need to add is problems with grooming. So I'm asking all employees reading this please not to give us huge problems and just come to work in compliance with the policies. Is that so much to ask?
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--Meg
--Lee is Cake, 4 go, The Aliens have Arrived!!
--http://www.geocities.com/gullysprincess/
That's a real delicate issue, but if I were in charge, I'd probably agree with the existing policies, with reservations. I personally find certain piercings attractive (my fiancee has had a nose ring for years) but can understand why some people might not like it. People generally fear what they don't understand, and stereotype certain "looks" with certain behaviours. Of course, these generalizations are not usually fair (my fiancee has a masters in Biology, for example), but it's a bigger societal issue, and not one that CP can take on at the expense of revenue.
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Jeff
Webmaster/Guide to The Point
"And he says 'I'm goin' crazy up there at the lake...'"
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Jeff
Webmaster/Guide to The Point
"And he says 'I'm goin' crazy up there at the lake...'"
Jeff, good point. One thing I forgot to mention. Its not that you can't have piercings or tattoos, they just can not be visible while in uniform. I personally have a cartilage piercing but do not wear an earring in it while at work or in uniform. Its not that big of a deal, I'll wear it when I go out. You're not going to not get a job because you're male and have a piercing, you'll just be required to take the earring out for work. It doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
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--Meg
--Lee is Cake, 4 go, The Aliens have Arrived!!
--http://www.geocities.com/gullysprincess/
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--Meg
--Lee is Cake, 4 go, The Aliens have Arrived!!
--http://www.geocities.com/gullysprincess/
on a humerous note--I was at Soak City with my kids and overheard a couple of vacationing families who were quite concerned.....many of the lifeguards had large bandaids--the moms were not going to let the little ones in the water because they feared that whatever large wound was under that bandaid might be contaminating the water--and so many of the guard, who all have to be in the water at some point , must be affected as well... they were actually relieved when I opened my mouth and told them the bandaids were just covering tatooes, in compliance with policy--but then asked why they were made to feel afraid instead of just having the tatooes visible. When I reminded them that not all tatooes might be "G" rated, they smiled..but I still do wonder. If I did not understand the policy, I , too, would be leary!!!
Yeah sure it sounds like a hassle to comply with cp's policy....but i can understand the policy as a foods employee. Would you really buy a burger from someone who had a piercing such as a nose piercing? All I would be thinking is how often does that person messes around with it. Not very sanitary is it?
And I have to agree with Megan, many employees do agrue throughout the summer about the grooming guidelines. There should be no need for this. They are aware what the guidelines are before they sign the CONTRACT. Now why are those that have a problem with the guidelines sign the CONTRACT and come to work at cp. *** This post was edited by SkyrideChic on 4/10/2000. ***
And I have to agree with Megan, many employees do agrue throughout the summer about the grooming guidelines. There should be no need for this. They are aware what the guidelines are before they sign the CONTRACT. Now why are those that have a problem with the guidelines sign the CONTRACT and come to work at cp. *** This post was edited by SkyrideChic on 4/10/2000. ***
Appearance is everything when people come to a place like Cedar Point. I make a change in my appearance when I process in. I have a goatee during school. When it comes time to come to CP, I shave it off.
Although this will be my 1st year working @ CP I had no prob with the grooming policy. As a paying patron did I pay that much attention to how the employees looked? No but thats because they were all neat and well groomed. You have to understand that you ARE Cedar Point when you work there-you are what people see all day long-so you are indeed the direct reflection of Cedar Point. Now it's too bad we cant insist on a grooming requirement for some of the guests...
lol
CP's grooming standards no different really from the "Heck Hole" I work at now-we dont meet with the public AT ALL but they still insist we dress corporate casual anyway-
they dont however say anything about any piercings and I have never gotten into trouble by exposing my tattoos (some funky looks yes)
Kinda sorry CP wont let me show my shoulder tattoos cause they really are free advertisment for CP and Raptor
but I guess I will have to be just like Smokey and keep em under wraps!!
guess the green nail polish and hair is out though huh??
As silly as some of CPs rules are-its a family park-lots of kids-
believe me it could be alot worse!!
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I am glad that they make the employees cover up thier tattoos. Personally it doesn't offend me but it kind of reminds me of carnies that operate the rides at the county, and local fairs.
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daniel j. haverlock
'99 Magnum Count: 801
www.spiritofthepoint.com
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daniel j. haverlock
'99 Magnum Count: 801
www.spiritofthepoint.com
Folks, you can have long hair and earrings and still represent yourself as neat and well groomed. All this is , is stereotyping people. You have to be open about others. You think because you have short hair and no piercings that you look better in public? Like I said on this post, as long as you are neat and well groomed than people shouldnt care. I am one of them and I work for a successful medical corporation dealing with the customers.
Most kids and young adults no longer sterotype because we all except it. But this is still a family park and some of our older guests do not adapt as well to the times.
Sure i dont agree with all of them, but its still my job to enforce them for the image of the park.
Sure i dont agree with all of them, but its still my job to enforce them for the image of the park.
I agree that if I see someone with a visible tatoo, it instantly reminds me of sleazy carnival ride operators....
SkyrideChic... you illustrate my point exactly. People with piercings don't necessarily "play" with them all day. My fiancee (who actually has a stud, or more technically a screw) almost never touches her nose, and even says she's surprised to see it sometimes when she looks in the mirror.
See... it's an education issue.
While working her way through grad school she was a manager at a CompUSA. One woman refused to talk to her because of her nose ring and the fact that she is a woman. How sad is that? It was very clear that the customer had far less education, and judging by the questions she had even less common sense.
Of course this sort of discussion always leads to the "they do it to be noticed" thing which is almost never true. Psychologists have said over and over that people who get tattoos or body piercing generally do so because it enables them to take control of their own bodies (when there is little else they can control) or perhaps just because they like the way it looks. Rarely is it done for attention or sexual reasons.
Again, I don't blame Cedar Point or even disagree with their policy, but rather wish that society would consider the bigger picture and get over itself.
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Jeff
Webmaster/Guide to The Point
"And he says 'I'm goin' crazy up there at the lake...'"
See... it's an education issue.
While working her way through grad school she was a manager at a CompUSA. One woman refused to talk to her because of her nose ring and the fact that she is a woman. How sad is that? It was very clear that the customer had far less education, and judging by the questions she had even less common sense.
Of course this sort of discussion always leads to the "they do it to be noticed" thing which is almost never true. Psychologists have said over and over that people who get tattoos or body piercing generally do so because it enables them to take control of their own bodies (when there is little else they can control) or perhaps just because they like the way it looks. Rarely is it done for attention or sexual reasons.
Again, I don't blame Cedar Point or even disagree with their policy, but rather wish that society would consider the bigger picture and get over itself.
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Jeff
Webmaster/Guide to The Point
"And he says 'I'm goin' crazy up there at the lake...'"
Frankly I don't care how someone presents themselves as long as it's with the norm. Being today just about anything goes in how people express themselve. Personally I don't care for nose rings and multiple piercings on the ears or eye lid. To me it's unattactive. I like navel ones however. Whatever is written in the contract is the code to go by. Just save that stuff for off work becasue it's not a good image for the park. As for long hair for guys. Quite honostly I don't see why they won't allow it but...but heh what can you do. That's how it goes. As for tatoos. I don't find them a bit appealing. I could handle a small one on the ankle or lower back. But to have a body cluttered with tatooes...yuck!!!! I know many people with them and they look really stupid. But that's there business and it doesn't bother me. If your not happy with the policy then perhaps it's not the job for you.
I wasn't going to reply to this, but here I go anyway....
It is unfortunate that so many stereotypes are given to people with what others may view as "different" piercings and tattoos. I, for one, have done all of the above - I have two tattoos, and have had my tongue and nose pierced. Some do it for their own personal expression of themselves, for individuality or what not, or do it because they personally find it attractive. I did these things for what I now look back on as a streak of independence. Well, the piercings are gone and healed and I now wish that tattoos weren't so permanent. After proving to myself that I was free to do as I wanted I just realized that I wasn't being true to myself and that those types of things just weren't for me. Now, I'm not saying that these things are wrong, I'm just saying that I've been there, done that, and decided that it just wasn't me - everyone is different in their own way - people shouldn't be judged for how they choose to "decorate" their bodies. Not to say that it doesn't happen, because it does - there were times when people made me feel like I had a contagious disease or something when they saw my tongue or nose ring (personally, I thought it was kind of fun to freak them out :))
Now that I've offered my peace of mind, back to the topic at hand....
Cedar Point has always had an image of what most people see as "clean-cut." I'm not saying that piercings, tattoos, guys with long hair, etc. isn't clean cut, just that Cedar Point's grooming standards appeal to all guests whereas the aforementioned may not appeal to those that carry stereotypes!
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Carrie's Cedar Point Employee Page
http://cpcarrie.tripod.com
It is unfortunate that so many stereotypes are given to people with what others may view as "different" piercings and tattoos. I, for one, have done all of the above - I have two tattoos, and have had my tongue and nose pierced. Some do it for their own personal expression of themselves, for individuality or what not, or do it because they personally find it attractive. I did these things for what I now look back on as a streak of independence. Well, the piercings are gone and healed and I now wish that tattoos weren't so permanent. After proving to myself that I was free to do as I wanted I just realized that I wasn't being true to myself and that those types of things just weren't for me. Now, I'm not saying that these things are wrong, I'm just saying that I've been there, done that, and decided that it just wasn't me - everyone is different in their own way - people shouldn't be judged for how they choose to "decorate" their bodies. Not to say that it doesn't happen, because it does - there were times when people made me feel like I had a contagious disease or something when they saw my tongue or nose ring (personally, I thought it was kind of fun to freak them out :))
Now that I've offered my peace of mind, back to the topic at hand....
Cedar Point has always had an image of what most people see as "clean-cut." I'm not saying that piercings, tattoos, guys with long hair, etc. isn't clean cut, just that Cedar Point's grooming standards appeal to all guests whereas the aforementioned may not appeal to those that carry stereotypes!
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Carrie's Cedar Point Employee Page
http://cpcarrie.tripod.com
Well your GF may not play with her piercing but I know plenty of others who do. It just cancels each other out and I rather go with my basic instinct. Truthfully i don't see anything wrong on having piercings unless you work with the food industry (but of course there should always be a limit....too much just looks tacky).
An education issue? Sorry to inform you but my major is based on society issues, norms, problems, etc. so i face all kinds of stuff like body piercing. Why people have them, Do they like the attention, blah blah blah, etc. So for you telling me its an education issue, I actually started to laugh cuz I feel that I'm more qualified in this subject matter than you.
Still its cool that you voiced your opinion (but when do you not voice it). I give you lots of credit for it! :) :) :) :)
I guess just to wrap this up Jake made the best point!
An education issue? Sorry to inform you but my major is based on society issues, norms, problems, etc. so i face all kinds of stuff like body piercing. Why people have them, Do they like the attention, blah blah blah, etc. So for you telling me its an education issue, I actually started to laugh cuz I feel that I'm more qualified in this subject matter than you.
Still its cool that you voiced your opinion (but when do you not voice it). I give you lots of credit for it! :) :) :) :)
I guess just to wrap this up Jake made the best point!
I didn't say YOU needed to be educated, but your statement didn't seem terribly informed either. Just because the people you know pick their nose doesn't mean everyone picks their nose. You should have learned in your major by now that generalizations get you nowhere, and are easily discredited. Hell, I pick my nose daily and I don't have any holes in my body other than those I was born with. If anyone should stay away from your food it's me.
Or if you really want to get in to education, ask all of the questions that I've heard... "Do you get a leak when you blow your nose?" (No) "Did it hurt?" (What do you think?) "Do you sneeze more?" (No)
The point is that people with things in their nose have perfectly functional noses that are no different from anyone else. It's not a sanitary issue. Take it from someone who lives with me and often cooks my food (not to mention has a masters in biology and knows precisely what goes on with her anatomy).
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Jeff
Webmaster/Guide to The Point
"And he says 'I'm goin' crazy up there at the lake...'"
*** This post was edited by Jeff on 4/11/2000. ***
Or if you really want to get in to education, ask all of the questions that I've heard... "Do you get a leak when you blow your nose?" (No) "Did it hurt?" (What do you think?) "Do you sneeze more?" (No)
The point is that people with things in their nose have perfectly functional noses that are no different from anyone else. It's not a sanitary issue. Take it from someone who lives with me and often cooks my food (not to mention has a masters in biology and knows precisely what goes on with her anatomy).
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Jeff
Webmaster/Guide to The Point
"And he says 'I'm goin' crazy up there at the lake...'"
*** This post was edited by Jeff on 4/11/2000. ***
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