Good Source Suggests

CPbound, if it launches on the right side and the first twist is to the left, wouldn't that make the tophat inverted? Or do you mean a 270 degree twist to the left?

No, 90 degrees to the left, facing MF.

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...Denial is an ugly thing.

possibly it would be better to use clockwise/counterclockwise to denote the direction of the turn. based upon what you would see if you were sitting in the front car of the train.

in this cast, the first twist is most likely going to be clockwise, and so would the twist going down.

allhailme, the second twist should be counter clockwise to go back in the general direction it came from (towards ID and PT).

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Actually Joe, both would be clockwise. The downside direction can only be clockwise because on the angled support. It shows which way the track has to be. So I agree with allhailme.

The only way that it can twist counter-clockwise is if at some point on the way down it stops twisting counter-clockwise and then finishes with a clockwise twist, which would be cool, but unlikely.

MY source can kick your source anyday! :P

Just kidding.

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Love,
The Mole

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Al2000 said:
I know most have heard this before but a good source suggests the following:

1) L-twist into-TH-twist out-B
2) 425 feet
3) 125 mph

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i have a friend with a CF connection and although the connection is sworn to secrecy, we DID get the same info out of that person.

the only differecne is that this source said #16 will be VERY similar to Wicked Twister in some respects i.e. LOW capacity and 27 seconds from launch to brakes.

it also sounded to me like it will be similar to WT in the layout, like a full-circuit WT, which means L:TW:TH:TW:B....

as for the speed, it will be faster than MF, but since G forces ARE regulated, it will only be a few MPH faster than MF.

source also said it is NOT a coaster, just as WT is not a coaster....

just relaying what i heard. do not take it as gospel or truth....just a little tidbit that may or may not pan out...

not to be confused with Tservo...

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*** This post was edited by servo 11/3/2002 10:35:27 AM ***

G forces are only regulated in New Jersey. Not Ohio. I did hear that CP has it's own self-imposed limit of 5, but you can still make a 125 mph coaster that pulls less than that as long as the pullouts/elements/etc have a high enough radius and aren't "sudden."

--James

just reporting what the CF connection said...

they said Gs are regulated.

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But they also said that WT isn't a coaster...and they advertise it as being a coaster...

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Launch: Tophat: Twistage: Brakes...

...Denial is an ugly thing.

like i said in my post above, i am only relaying what i heard.

if it's contrary to what we have heard before from others, it is not my doing.

if you want the email my friend sent me, let me know and i will forward it on to you...

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It would be a much more engaging debate if you could support your post with well thought arguments instead of offering your your friend's e-mail address to the lynch mob ;)

But to each their own I suppose

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actually, the email was to my Yahoogroup for U2-loving coaster fans so there wouldn't be ANY emails "offered up to the lynch mob".

PLUS, it's hard to support my post with more than just rumor and speculation offered by an unamed CF employee....

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I was just stirring the pot... appologies ;)

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The G forces are not directly related to speed. Instead, they have to do with linear and centripetal accleration. With a high speed, linear acceleration can be reduced by taking longer time to get to the top speed (longer launch in this case), and centripetal acceleration can be reduced by giving the pullup and pullout larger radii (as appears to be the case).

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*** This post was edited by Majin Heero 11/4/2002 8:51:51 PM ***

no problem Jay...apology accepted.

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