Future expansions

thats a lie. hah kidding. Thats not a bad idea, I would love a new WWL v2.0 built, bigger...better..wetter. heh however I dont see that happening, but then again... i never thought I would ever see 25 cent cotton candy.

http://www.pointbuzz.com/faq1.htm

Gomez said:
Disney doesn't build monorails anymore? They're updating the one in California and just built one in Hong Kong.

Thanks, Gomez. I stand corrected. I was mostly thinking about Orlando, and I didn't know they were working on the one in Anaheim.

This is so funny, I've been hearing that CP is running out of room for over 20 years now!

Anyone who has ever been to Disneyland in California can attest that you dont need much room to expand. There is one section of Tomorrowland where there are at least 5 attractions on top of each other. The sub ride, the speedway, the WEDway people mover, the monorail, and the skyway. Granted a lot of those attractions are no longer there, but at one time they all interacted with each other. Alice in Wonderland is physically on top of Mr. Toad! Cedar Point will get creative as they need to, and eventually you will see more support facilities moved off of the point. I can see laundry, dorms, and maintenance areas all being moved to Sandusky to make room.

There are plenty of obvious areas for expansion.

1. The "Gold Dorms" area behind Corkscrew and Power Tower. These are ancient buildings. Other stuff back there is the laundry (could be relocated across the Causeway) and the maintenance facility.

2. The "Cedars" dorm. (Should have been torn down 10..no 20...no 30 years ago.)

3. Circle B of Camper Village. This could be for expansion of the Lighthouse Point concept -or- for expansion of Soak City (a Master Blaster perhaps)?

4. The current Cedar Fair corporate offices, accounting building, etc. There has been talk for years about building a non-operations building on the other side of the peninsula.

5. The Paddlewheel Island.

6. The beach front that should eventually be opened up when they decide to tear down Disaster Transport.

I think all of these areas would be looked at before they take on the expense and challenges of building into the parking lot.

Look at Raptor, MF, WT, TTD, maXair, and Skyhawk to see what can be done. All five of those rides were packed into areas no one thought could be done. All of them but Skyhawk (unless you count the lockers) required something to be removed or relocated.

Anyone who thinks Cedar Point has a space problem needs to check out Blackpool Pleasure Beach.

I remember playing Blackpool on the old RCT games. You had to remove half-a-dozen things just to put one in. ;)

MichiganStateFan said:
Didn't Cedar Point use to have like moveable trams that employees use to drive you, to you section where your car is. I thought they did a very long time ago, or that might be Disney World or Universal I'm thinking of.

Yes they did, and I would still park in the main lot if they had them... *** Edited 6/13/2006 1:30:33 PM UTC by Coastern3rd***

Ironically, I was just looking at the sattelite photos on Sunday. Here are my thoughts.

The chair swing ride (waveswinger, I think) looks like it would fit in that area between raptor and blue streak nicely.

Soak City parking lot could be removed and they could offer shuttles to Soak City from the main lot; or they could put in a couple parking garages by Soak City and remove the flat lot.

They could remove Cadilac cars (since they have two other car rides) and probably fit a decent coaster in that area by the Raptor Cobra Roll.

As said before, they could remove/relocate the on-site dorms.

And if all else fails, they could build a coaster that floats on pontoons out on Lake Erie ;).

Spend some time exploring the pinnensula- not just the park- and you'll realize how small the park is and how big the pinnensula is.

There's plenty of room.

Fastball84 said:
I remember playing Blackpool on the old RCT games. You had to remove half-a-dozen things just to put one in. ;)

lol, I know exactly what you mean. Did you try putting in a coaster?::rolls eyes:::)

cdrptrks said:
Soak City parking lot could be removed and they could offer shuttles to Soak City from the main lot; or they could put in a couple parking garages by Soak City and remove the flat lot.

And destroy the view from LHP? I hope not.

Chief Wahoo said:
I think all of these areas would be looked at before they take on the expense and challenges of building into the parking lot.

Expense and challenges? Other than a flat field i cant think of a more cost effective and easy place to build into. If you were talking about a Mountain, or the Lake then maybe; but a parking lot? Tearing up concrete is prety easy with methods used today. Heck you only need to bust up small areas for footers, the rest can be left. The land doesent need to be graded because its already flat And settled from years of being a parking lot. Nothing in the way minus the occasional lightpost which can be taken down in less than an hour or two. On most normal summer days the parking lot only gets maybe 2/3 full. The only times it really fills up is around the hollidays and some Saturdays in the mid Summer weeks. For these peak times you can easily find a solution for overflow parking. Maybe you can explain better because im not seeing this expense or challenges on building into the parking lot.

Steve4Hockey said:
Heck you only need to bust up small areas for footers, the rest can be left.

While they're at it they can change the signs at the entrance to "Welcome to Six Flags: Cedar Point"

NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Steve,

It wouldn't be expensive to start building "park" in what is now parking lot. The expense comes when you decide to build parking off the peninsula. There isn't any "open land" that could accommodate a traditional parking lot, or at least open land that is easily accessible. So, then you are looking at parking garages. Parking garage costs are enormous. Years ago I heard they were approximately $10,000 per parking space. I'm sure those costs have gone up.

Then, assuming you splurge on garages, you have to transport the guests over to the Peninsula. Also not a cheap proposition. I have heard various estimates as to something like the Disney monorail. I've heard everything from $1 million per mile to $1 million per span (a span being the length between two footers).

At Cedar Point you would have to build a double track or a circuit (you'd have to have more than one train to transport 40,000 guests on a weekend) so even though it appears to be a short distance, it really would be quite a construction job. Again, transportation costs wouldn't be cheap.

So. I think the fact that there is plenty of room has been established.

I don't think that expansion into the parking lot would occur, at least not for many years.

I love that way the park has changed in the last 10 years with coaster track everywhere you look and hope that they find new and inovative ways to pack more and more rides in to the same areas for a long time to come.

There is plenty of room in the current park for expansion, the parking lot will stay for a long time.

Universal splurged on the garages but they didn't have to deal with the transportation end of things. They installed some moving sidewalks and so forth but there is no way you could have moving sidewalks all the way across the Causeway.

My point is, right now there is more than enough parking lot. As it is employees are allowed to park in the main lot if they buy a parking pass. The small spit of parking lot by Demon Drop is often referred to as Emploee Parking by the employees because they are the only ones there early enough to get those spots in the morning. By making all minor employees park off point and take the employee shuttle across you can free up some room allowing for the lot to be slowly built into. Im not talking about removing half the lot when i say build into it. But by being able to use some space for a small part of a ride, this frees up some room along with room already inside the park to work with.