Dragster a flop?

The poster of this topic has a valid point. Dragster IS a flop. With the money invested and the costs that come with making it go...it IS a flop.

I'd bet the Powers That Be are sorry they even considered putting that thing in.

MrScott


Mayor, Lighthouse Point

TTD 120mph's avatar

I fiked the whole waist/waste thing in my post.:)


BTW: I understand what you mean Vince982.

Wait a min, shouldn't this topic be in the Top Thrill Dragster instead of General? *** Edited 6/21/2005 1:32:50 AM UTC by TTD 120mph***


-Adam G- The OG Dragster nut

Man, a flop? I think you guys are being a bit harsh. I haven't seen the numbers or anything, but I doubt that CP is sorry that they built the ride. Check out some of the other PointBuzz forums such as trip reports or trip planning, and see how many people talk about Dragster when planning a trip or reporting on a trip that they had. Come to think of it, why is this topic in the general forum. Anyway, people come from all over the country (and likely the world) to ride Dragster, myself included. The ride is still a major attraction. I don't get how people can think otherwise. Check the lines on a Saturday in July or August and tell me that Dragster is a flop and doesn't draw a crowd.

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"I don't get how people can think otherwise."

It's because it breaksdown once in a while.....or because they have mixed emotions over Dragster. :)

I guess there are some who like it, and there are some others who do not...... while there are others that are both.

I can understand the frustration that some people feel when they wait for a while to end up not riding it but I over look stuff like that. *** Edited 6/21/2005 1:12:00 AM UTC by TTD 120mph***


-Adam G- The OG Dragster nut

Hard to say but I would have to go with a good choice. Why? Well I never knew CP was around untill TTD came out so they now have my buisness every year. I am sure many others have had the same thing happen.


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My post up there was in no way saying that I think it's a flop, I was just saying that in my opinion, I like other rides better. I had never been to the park before the Dragster era so I can't judge what it was like before it debuted.


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CP4eva'04 said:
I never knew CP was around untill TTD came out so they now have my buisness every year. I am sure many others have had the same thing happen.

Amen, brother! Last summer, my friend Joe went on and on about Dragster and how great it was. He got 3 newbies (myself included) to drive up last August. We actually postponed the trip once because Dragster went down in early July. It was such an incredible ride, 2 of us came back again a few weeks later, and once more in October. I can promise you that Dragster was a major factor in all of those trips. I mean, let's face it - there is nothing like that feeling. Nothing!

Oh, and the first time we got in line to ride it, it broke down while we were in line. We decided not to wait and come back for it the second day. It didn't tarnish my experience. I new that the ride was tempermental, so I didn't freak out. Does it suck? Sometimes. Is it enough to make it a flop? I think not.

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" Does it suck? Sometimes. Is it enough to make it a flop? I think not."

Here, here. Well said!
Although I wouldn't use the word "suck" because I don't even know the meaning of the words Dragster and suck.......but I know what you mean.:) *** Edited 6/21/2005 2:35:18 AM UTC by TTD 120mph***


-Adam G- The OG Dragster nut

Yeah, I was referring to the tempermental part sucking, hehe. ;)

I've just got to throw my opinion in here for some reason. ;) I was really excited about Dragster when it debuted but after the first couple of times on it, I just got bored with it for some reason. Don't get me wrong, it's a great ride and without a doubt it packs quite possibly the biggest adrenaline rush of all rides in the park, but for me I bank much more on MF and other sorted rides.

I've spent a lot of time in line for that ride (all by choice) through breakdowns, rain delays and just by long line standards and it's just hard to justify waiting that long for such a short burst of a ride.

In comparison I will refer to Maxair: I waited about 20 minutes or so for it last week and I provided far more of a thrill to me than Dragster. MF had quite a long line and it definitely out-does it for me as opposed to TTD. Of course those are opinions and different view points so take them for what they're worth.

I am of the mindset that says TTD is a flop. I think something more thrilling and not such a short burst of thrill could have been done on the same spot of land that it occupies.


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Am I the only one that is having a hard time with this logic? Look up flop in the dictionary. One of the definitions that comes up is 'a complete failure.'

Regardless of your personal opinion of the ride, or whether or not you like it more than MF, or whether you are willing to wait in the line for longer than X number of minutes has absolutely NO BEARING on whether or not the ride is a winner for the park. People still travel long distances to CP because of Dragster. Without it, you lose some of those people. Does anyone think this is false? If

If Dragster was a walk-on ride during the day, then yeah, maybe it would be considered a flop. But as long as people are coming to the park and waiting in the line to ride it, it is a successful attraction IMO.

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I think TTD was (is) a big headache for CP, but nowhere near being a flop. Riding TTD is just as big as a deal as riding MF or Raptor when the GP goes to CP. I say this a lot, but the ride does have huge mechanical issues, but the GP loves it when it is open and CP loves it when the GP loves it (that spells $money$).

A flop is what I'd consider a ride like SoB at PKI. From what I read at CoasterBuzz. The ride is huge and is really a engineering marval, but the GP doesn't like it nor do the coaster ethusiast.


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I think Dragster is doing its job. Like I said before, the ride creates excitment, which gives people another reason to go to CP. The ride received world-wide attention when it opened. It very likely expanded CP's drawing power and put CP on the map in places where it wasn't known before TTD. It is a great ride, and park guests are still very excited to ride it.

TTD's mechanical problems are will know, but that doesn't mean that the ride isn't generating positive publicity. Especially this year, since TTD has been running pretty well, outside of a few days downtime.


I'd rather be in my boat with a drink on the rocks,
than in the drink with a boat on the rocks.

"And don't give up when you're in line and it breaks down because it could be a short 5min or less wait. Getting out of line is a big mistake!!!"

Or, it could go completely opposite like what happened to me and wound up waiting three hours for it to finally re-open for the rest of the day.

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When was this?
How exactly did it happen?(more details:))


-Adam G- The OG Dragster nut

I would not by any means consider Dragster a flop. Yes, the breakdowns are dissapointing, but the ride is still great. Just look at pictures of the midway when it is open compared to when it is closed. The difference is amazing! The whole park seems to lighten up and have more energy when it is open. People stand on the midway just staring at the thing and watching the incredible machine at work. Has it performed as Cedar Point wanted it to? Not exactly, but it still gave them the record for height and speed for two solid years.

I took my trip to Cedar Point it 2004 with one intention- to ride Dragster. I'm sure I am not the only one who has taken a trip to Cedar Point for that sole reason.


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Well TTD120, it was the year that it opened and I was staying at the Breakers Hotel. I thought I would take advantage of the early entry by heading straight for Dragster. We got in line and waited while they were testing. That's when the state inspector showed up unexpectedly and much to the crowd's dismay. He just happened to show up right when they were about to start loading. Things seemed to be going well and the inspector left. To make this story short, it had a few problems here and there that led to us waiting in line for three hours. My friend and I never complained and we never left the line. Three hours seemed kinda long, then I remembered the year that MF opened. I still loved every minute...I mean second of the ride.

The year that MF opened was the first year I had ever been to the Point. My brother and I lined up past the tunnel over to frontier town. We asked an employee what the wait time was and was quoted a three hour wait. We decided to go ahead and wait and get it out of the way. Turns out, it was only a two hour wait, so I guess it can go either way. Needless to say, I was not the least bit disappointed in MF and we ran around to see what the wait was and alas, four hours. I love coasters and all, I just don't want to spend the majority of my day waiting on one coaster when I had so much more to experience. Raptor was actually my first CP coaster(and B&M for that matter) and it totally rocked! I've been hooked on CP ever since. *** Edited 6/21/2005 7:47:50 PM UTC by Coasterfury***

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The difference between MFs opening year waits and TTD's is that at least MF was RUNNING for those 3 hours. The line actually moved, and not because everyone in front of you didn't feel like waiting any more.

I wouldn't call TTD a flop, because it is bringing in some crowds, but it is not even close to being a top 5 coaster on the point. Its not even on my must ride list. I'll hit it if the wait is ramp or less. Otherwise I would rather go run laps on the Moly Orange beast across the way.


Goodbye MrScott

John

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Ramp or less.....that’s rare to see. I mean when it's actually running. It's usually ramp (or less) when it opens from a breakdown (which I don’t think we really have to worry about this year) and early in the morning. But those are short lived because the line grows rapidly within like 10 minutes. I always hit Dragster first in the morning when the line's at its lowest. It always seems longer because of the people backed up to corkscrew but it always goes by once they start letting people in the queue.
And, like some of you have said, how can Dragster be a flop when it still attracts a good amount of people to it? I'm sure they don’t think it's a flop.
But oh well, everybody has their own opinion I guess.


-Adam G- The OG Dragster nut

Gomez said:
A flop is what I'd consider a ride like SoB at PKI. From what I read at CoasterBuzz. The ride is huge and is really a engineering marval, but the GP doesn't like it nor do the coaster ethusiast.

No Windjammer at Knotts is a flop, not SoB. People still ride SoB. Trust me, no one rides Windjammer. http://rcdb.com/id294.htm

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