Does Frontiertown need to be updated?

Thabto said:

I'd like to see CCMR get better lap bars. It's a very tight squeeze for me most of the time.

Its too bad they couldn't get the Gemini trains going on CCMR.

I've always thought it would be cool if the helix at the end was enclosed to make it seem like you were diving down into a mine shaft. Other than that, change the trains and leave the ride the way it is.

I'm also in favor of changing the lab bars. I'm 5' 6 and a half, and I even feel like it's tight leg space. The other thing I would change is make the turns throughout the course more gradual instead of feeling like you're in a boxing match on every turn.

Here is a suggestion to those of you that struggle with Mine Ride lap bars. Line up to sit in the front seat of any car on the train. The front seat allows you the most room, the second seat not as much, the third seat is a very tight fit for even smaller individuals. It is the same on all three trains. The ride is a good "first" type coaster for youngsters, I see parents in line with kids and quite often the adults are of "larger size". When they are lined up for the third seat in a car it is predictable that the following will occur:

Host: "Please pullback on the lap bar." Lap bar fails to lock because of larger individual in seat 3.

Host: "Please cross your legs at your ankles and tuck them under the seat, the lap bar only locks in one position. Now pull back on the lap bar."

3rd seat rider: "UGHHH, OUCH, Boy is that tight!" Or it will fail to latch and the rider will exit the ride.

I don't understand the mechanics of it, how it is tighter from seat one to three, probably gears and sprockets or something. But I wish it could be adjusted to accommodate riders more easily. It would speed up loading.

If you have been uncomfortable riding it, please try a front seat of any car. It will make a big difference.

CP Maverick said:
The current design with one lap bar position for all 3 rows makes for uncomfortable rides for adults in a car full of children.

Nope, the lap bar locks in only one position, doesn't matter if the train is full of children or adults, the bar locks in the same position.

Yes, indeed it does lock in one position, but that one position is noticeably tighter in seats two and then even tighter in seat three of each car.

Seat one is much looser, kind of like Joe Haden's coverage on Oakland's receivers.

Since this obviously doesn't correlate with 2016, and it does more so with frontier town/CCMR, here is what the prospective land would look like without the CCMR. Does this seem like a reasonable amount of space for a flyer or anything equivalent? Not sure what else in this area could be taken out to provide more land...

CCMR does take up a large chunk of land. In the future I could see it definitely on the chopping block, but in the next 5 years, no way.

MS will be going before Mine Ride. I could even see Corkscrew going before Mine Ride.

Do they use the old dorms next to Corkscrew for anything? Those, along with the dorms by the marina would open up a lot of space. They could also reclaim the land between Gemini and Mean Streak by relocating those maintenance and storage buildings.

I'm pretty sure those dorms by Corkscrew were taken out in the last year or so and is now parking.

Peering into my crystal ball...

...I think both of those dorms will eventually be moved to the mainland and the buildings torn down, though the space may not necessarily be used for rides or attractions. The land Cedars is on could be used to consolidate maintenance, storage, commissary, laundry and/or other such operations.

The ball is cloudy on this, but I think CCMR will be around for quite a few years.

CoasterGuy15 said:
Since this obviously doesn't correlate with 2016, and it does more so with frontier town/CCMR, here is what the prospective land would look like without the CCMR. Does this seem like a reasonable amount of space for a flyer or anything equivalent? Not sure what else in this area could be taken out to provide more land...

No it looks like good land for an RMC. :)

I can think of another ride, also in a frontier area, and also over a lagoon, that probably will see the axe before CCMR does.

Funny, I was looking at the land where corkscrew is too for a potential future project. I just wasn't sure what the building behind it were, if they were significant or not. Also, I still think they could connect the mean stream and Gemini midways. This will probably happen if/when mean streak is either renovated or totally removed.

e x i t english said:
I can think of another ride, also in a frontier area, and also over a lagoon, that probably will see the axe before CCMR does.

That leaves Snake River Falls, Shoot the Rapids, Maverick, and Millennium Force.

That leaves Snake River Falls, Shoot the Rapids, Maverick, and Millennium Force.

And which one of those has the most mechanical problems?

CPNostalgia said:

That leaves Snake River Falls, Shoot the Rapids, Maverick, and Millennium Force.

And which one of those has the most mechanical problems?

Maverick (jk)

For the love of God just Iron Horse MS already....

I rode CCMR this weekend and Families and kids love it. It is probably relatively cheap to operate for the park and fits in with the simple look of the area. Why tear down what isn't broken? It is a CP classic and if they really want to what is stopping them from intermingling rides in between? It was one of the first tubular steel track coasters. Corkscrew will be gone way before CCMR is. I kinda wish they would let the trees grow in its various infields.

^ Cpfourlife1, I agree with you. I don't want to see Cedar Creek mine ride removed, just updated it a little. Also I know what Exit English is referring to. He wants Shoot the Rapids to be removed. Fudge!