Do you think WT was supposed to be a "filler"?

Do you think WT was supposed to be a "filler" ride? I know that it's probably not likely, but do you think that maybe CP decided to build a ride that people would "expect" them to build after already building something that CP though would be the next big thing?

Like for example: CP built WT and everyone really just though of it as a "filler" ride. Could CP have maybe seen this, and the fact that MF's lines didn't really change at all? And then thought, "It's a good thing that we added WT but another record breaking coaster wouldn't hurt would it?"

I just think that CP thought WT was going to draw some of the lines away from MF and be really popular, even though it isn't really. It is for a new coaster, but nothing we'll ever look back on and say, "Wow, WT sure did change the face of thrill rides."

Think about it...

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LeWiS

I think there is a chance it might of been a "filler" Ride...just to boost the crowds and just to say o look we got another Record breaker... its still a great ride and i like it alot.

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- Dennis

Well first of all, it's not like CP decided to build this 2003 coaster earlier this season when WT was opening. Not only does CP plan ahead years in advance, but they also started construction on the new ride before WT opened (Area 51).

That having been said, I consider WT an awesome ride, but in the scheme of things, it really does seem like a filler ride. I bet they knew that people would be expecting a coaster for 2002. By putting in WT, CP provided both a great coaster and something to "keep us occupied" until they unleash the monster coaster for 2003.

Also, this might belong in the WT forum...

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"Meh."
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*** This post was edited by Majin Heero 9/6/2002 3:30:50 PM ***

I'm not sure if "filler ride" is the term I would use. CP plans years in advance, and I believe they planned the less expensive WT to add to the VARIETY of coasters available as well as to enhance that area of the park.

I think BECAUSE it was less expensive, it enabled them to build a monster coaster the following year.
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A nine million-dollar filler ride. Right, okay.

Why is it that any ride that doesn't break records is "filler" material. Was Camp Snoopy filler? I think not.

Even then, what difference does it make?

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Jeff
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well sorta but not JUST a filler it kept them up with SFMM and gave them another record breaker but it aint anything unique like MF

Some officials said that for 2002 that they would had some filler rides...I think they did this and more.

They introduced the first launched ride into the park. For many this would the first launched ride they have ever been on. I think that it served a purpose as adding another coaster to their count, being an intense record breaker, and preparing people for an even bigger launch next year.

Along with all of this, it really distributed the crowds much better this year. I'm glad to see people finally in that section of the park as opposed to the ghost town of previous years.

I don't think that filler is a real good word for it though. Since it cost only 9 million, they can get two launched coaster in two years versus a 25 million dollar coaster in one year.

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The placement of these two rides is quite strategic, and couldn't be any less "filler" if you ask me. Think about it: How is SFWoA's attendance this year? I think the word that comes to mind is "Craptacular." Down more than 12 percent, due in part to Cedar Point's new $9 million coaster ... It's pretty safe to assume that SFWoA has lost a lot of revenue... a well played hand by Cedar Point if you ask me... and next year will, it will be even better. While Six Flags (may-be) installing a hyper next year, Cedar Point will (once again) steal the show by adding a coaster of gargantuan proportions- and also reclaiming the most coasters record, and in doing so, reclaiming word wide coaster attention. How can you put a price on a winning poker hand like that? The new CP coaster could knock SFWoA even further down the ladder (duh).

If you think about it, this really is a one-two punch by Cedar Fair. If it had only been one coaster instead of two in a row, it would not have been as effective (And what's even funnier if you ask me, SFWoA's attendance was down, in part, due to the fact that Cedar Point's new coaster, was an "Up-sized" version of Six Flags' own coaster! Talk about coaster wars!)

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Jes
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*** This post was edited by Zero-G 9/6/2002 6:18:20 PM ***

Coaster Wars indeed! I'm lovin it! We are benifitting from SF and CF battling...life is good...

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I don't think it was a "filler" ride. I think they did it to keep people away from SF. Alot of people who saw the older SFWOA commercials saw S:UE and thought it looked really cool, and they said the only reason they wanted to go there was for that ride. With the addition of WT people don't have to go to SF, they can go to CP and ride one that is taller, faster, and has two twist, and in my opinion (and many other peoples) is much more fun.

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Maybe Cedar Point thought it was a good business call.....but what do I know?

What probably happened is Intamin gave CF a great deal on WT when they started the 2003 project. With all the Intamin rides CF has purchased in the past few years and the rides they'll probably purchase in the coming years, there had to be some sort of frequent customer discount on some ride somewhere, much like a Subway Sub Club card :) I can hear it now..."If I buy five huge coasters, I get the sixth one free?? Sign me up!!!"

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Maybe they just wanted a launched ride?

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I do think that this was a filler ride.

If Cedar Point would have gone 3 years without a coaster we would have known for sure that a new coaster would be coming this year, and the footers would have confirmed this. Since they added WT this year it casted doubt onto a lot of people why would they get 2 coasters year after year. Eventhough it was a filler I do belive time was put into it, it wasnt just as though they wanted something , anything, to keep people happy.

Its a more family oriented ride! My sister who would proably never ride MF or the new coaster, loves WT. I think as stated earlier that it is for variety, and also gave the non enthusiasts a coaster to enjoy. Jeff has even stated that families will spend more than an enthusiast. So having a well rounded selection of coasters is more profitable than just enthusiast coasters! I think it was smart in a business sense! And CP is doing real well with their business!------------------
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Yeah, I'm sure Cedar Point built WT just to confuse us into thinking they weren't going to build a new ride this year.

Some of you act like WT is a bad thing! It's a coaster, what else do you want?

After hearing the scope of the new ride, I thought the same thing of WT. My guess was CP intended in erect the new ride after MF. I remember some time back Mr. Innes stating "Remember how we followed up the Magnum" in terms of what coaster they were building after MF. Possibly the new ride incorporated new technology, there were logistical problems, or it took longer to engineer or manufacture than expected with Intamin's other projects. Probably a good thing for us, it somewhat implies that the new ride may be BIG. CP may have been unwilling to accept a 3 year product cycle on a new attraction in this industry, where there were rumors of many new rides at other parks and SFMM right on their heels. Nobody could have projected that SF would be in the amount of economic hurt they are in right now or the problems with X, and could have easily gone on a coaster binge at the time CP was planning their new ride. CF claims they do not care about coaster count, but I do not believe it for a second. It is a powerful marketing tool. WT may have been thought up to be a stopgap ride to hold on until the new one is up. It is very unusual for CP to install coasters in consecutive years, but it is also not CP's style to install a bunch of kiddie coasters to just keep up their count. WT is a relatively cheap ride, and a good portion of the capital expense was in site preparation that would lay the groundwork for developing that area of the park to increase traffic to the "boardwalk" area and games and more evenly dispersing crowds in the park. If this was the thinking, it was a tremendous decision that sets the park up for future growth in the area, builds on the transition from "destination" park to "resort" park, indisputably allows CP to stake claim to "coaster capital", and puts them in an excellent position to dominate the industry for the next 5-10 years.

-j

Wicked Twister's purpose, in my opinion, was simply to draw more attention to that part of the park. They accomplished this. Now they're building a new attraction for the serious coaster enthusiasts.

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I don't see what all the complaining is about. Even thought Wicked Twister didn't cost as much as other coasters, it is an awesome ride. Shouldn't we be happy for Cedar Fair and the point that they bought such an awesome ride for such a "cheap" price? Honestly, some people complain about the weirdest things.

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