"Discipline"

I was wondering what kind of ways employees "punish" rulebreakers. Is there any other action you can take bisides ejection from the park.

Also, I was wondering if you have a rule against taking photos of the on-ride photo screen. (I know, its unrelated, but I've always wondered.)

Traditionally, what happens to 'rule breakers' is: if the guest is seen doing something like line jumping, the Team Leader, Assistant Team Leader, person in charge, or the employee that witnessed it will ask the guest to go to the end of the line, or leave. If the guest refuses (which happens most of the time) then we call the Cedar Point Police Department. Then, the situation is in their hands. If the situation is serious enough, the guest could get removed from the park, but that doesn't usually happen for minor incidences.

Ride hosts can never 'punish' guests, although some try to, by stapling the guest in their seat. (eg., putting the lap bar ALL the way down.) Not only is this unfair, it is also against what Cedar Point stands for, and that is great guest service. Some guests are dumb, but it is not up to ride hosts or any other employee to ever 'punish' them.

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TL Millennium Force- 2004
TL Mantis- 2003
ATL Power Tower- 2002
Millennium Force- 2001

there is a big difference tho between making sure a restraint is all the way down and stapling...one is painful, and one is not

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wdwcp alumni
future CP ride op?

The reality of it is, guests are going to do some annoying, stupid, and just plain rude and against the rules stuff. And you are going to have no choice but to simply deal with about 95% of it. Unless you're a certain someone ;) and a drunk guest slaps you across the face and you chase him from the exit of snake river to camp snoopy. haha (summer 2002) Last season was nuts too, but if I can make it another summer with perfect attendance, not one point or operational, then i'll be very happy!

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'02 Merchandise
'03 Thunder Canyon
'04 Gemini
*** This post was edited by IheartTC 3/1/2004 11:37:14 PM ***

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vegasbaddboy said:
there is a big difference tho between making sure a restraint is all the way down and stapling...one is painful, and one is not

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When I said ALL the way down (note the use of capital letters), I meant stapling in the painful sense, not making sure that the restraint is in the proper position. I am very well aware of the difference...
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TL Millennium Force- 2004
TL Mantis- 2003
ATL Power Tower- 2002
Millennium Force- 2001

*** This post was edited by Millennium Force Girl 3/1/2004 11:45:38 PM ***

i know U KNOW...you are a TL after all...

i was just saying

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wdwcp alumni
future CP ride op?

However, it is also company policy that you must "staple" everyone. Yes, the park used the word staple. This policy was set forth after the Holiday World accident.

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2003 Super Screw Crew

Say what? That's not cool...I never heard anything like that last year, nor rxperienced it aside from Dragster. In my opinion, that it the only ride that it is accepted to "staple" people.

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Everything that has a beginning has an end.

The Matrix Revolutions

one of my favorite/amusing things to do was on an off day, say some friends and i went riding and we'd see some idiot kid climbing on the rails or sittin on them, one of us would whip out our id and say something like please get down, then the kid would look all embarrassed, it was kinda fun

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Park Admissions-"00"
Park Admissions-"01"
Park Admissions-"02" Atl of Marina Gate
TGI Fridays Server-"03"
Park Admissions-"04" (hopefully i can get back in admissions, i'm through with foods)

you're not supposed to pull out your tag when you're not working

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:james
magnum crew 2002
johnny rockets 2003, 2004

besides... people are at an amusement park having fun. Don't take all the rule breaking to heart. It'll just give u an ulcer.

i know how obnoxious i was at amusment parks before i worked at CP... but i was just a kid having a fun day.

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:james
magnum crew 2002
johnny rockets 2003, 2004

It's just amusing if you see someone doing something stupid or possibly harmful in the park while you're off-duty to whip out your ID and tell them to stop. Usually they're embarrassed...it's funny. Personally I never really cared what any of the guests were doing when I was in the park to play, unless someone was doing something dangerous. My friend used to asbolutely love informing people of his employee status and telling them not to sit on queue rails when we waited in line for rides. People would get so red-faced and scramble off of them. But there really isn't anything else to do in line...playing on the rails is fun.

I have never heard that you can't pull out your ID bagde when you're not working...I know you're not supposed to wear it when out of uniform, but are you seriously forbidden to show it to a guest who's breaking a policy and tell them nicely to stop? I don't see how that would be wrong.

Yes. You are not supposed to whip your ID badge out and talk to guests about breaking policies. You aren't working, it's not your problem. Now if you are in uniform.....

Last summer i saw an employee take out his ID and asked a guy to put out his cigarette in the Raptor line, and i was thankful that he did so.

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CP_bound said:
Say what? That's not cool...I never heard anything like that last year, nor rxperienced it aside from Dragster. In my opinion, that it the only ride that it is accepted to "staple" people.

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Everything that has a beginning has an end.

The Matrix Revolutions

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We were informed last year that if a guest is trying to make more room for themselves in the seat (ie-scooting far up in the seat, putting their arms under the shoulder harnesses, etc.) that we were to make them sit correctly then put the harness in its correct place until it stops semi-firmly on the persons hips. I pushed just enough so it was a little squish but not to the point where the person literally could not move at all. I would leave maybe 1/4 an inch for an occasional squirm.

I've also been specifically told that, "Air time" is not permitted what-so-ever and that in all actuality most or all rides SHOULD do a Dragster style 'staple', but on some rides it's harder to do (ie Twister is harder to push the harness unless you use a lot of force compared to Raptor where it's a very very very easy click. Also on WT if you notice it's a floating point lock whereas Raptor is 'clicks'. The clicks make it much harder for the dragster style staple as well b/c there's space inbetween each click, but usually and most of the time 1 click and 2 max are what you're going to get for space on Raptor... WT you usually wouldn't get any and Dragster too.

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'04 Twister ATL
'03 Twister/Sky Ride (Spent month@Disaster too)

No air-time is permitted? That's obsurd. That's one of the reasons people ride coasters!

Who ever is making the call to tell employees to intentionally staple people and to prevent air-time has their priorities out of whack.

Cedar Point is one of the only places that requires seat belts on nearly every ride...if they get any more anal about how guests are "securely" restrained they are going to end up pissing off a whole lot of people.

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Everything that has a beginning has an end.

The Matrix Revolutions

My guess is for safety and legal reasons...

but i guess im not in charge, so whatever

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2004: Snake River Falls (First Year)

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CP_bound said:
...Cedar Point is one of the only places that requires seat belts on nearly every ride...if they get any more anal about how guests are "securely" restrained they are going to end up pissing off a whole lot of people...

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Then those guests need to go to other amusement parks where their safety records are not nearly as superb. I guarantee that I feel alot more comfortable riding any CP ride than going to any other park that doesn't have seatbelts. Seatbelts are their for a reason - if you don't like them, don't ride! Simple.
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2004 - ATL Mantis
2003 - Mantis
2002 - Mantis
2001 - S.C. Foods Supervisor

And Diva lays the smackdown...

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2004 - Mantis Crew

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MantisBrian said:
Then those guests need to go to other amusement parks where their safety records are not nearly as superb. I guarantee that I feel alot more comfortable riding any CP ride than going to any other park that doesn't have seatbelts. Seatbelts are their for a reason - if you don't like them, don't ride! Simple.
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2004 - ATL Mantis
2003 - Mantis
2002 - Mantis
2001 - S.C. Foods Supervisor

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I tend to disagree, just because all of your rides has seat belts doesnt mean its safer...from what I have seen, there havent been that many instances of people just falling off of roller coasters. Most recent injuries are due to rider error and mechanical mishap (ie Big Thunder). There are some rides that run without the saftey belts at other parks that are just as safe as the version at CP. In addition, use of belts in some cases isnt even CP's idea, it was designed by the manufacturer as a part of the attraction. Afterall, anyone could simply just unbuckle or loosen the seatbelt at any time, so imo you are just as safe without one...but thas just me.

Cedar Point is does so well in saftey because of the training its staff gets, proper maintenance, and good saftey information at each attraction...not seat belts.

BTW isnt there a lookout seat on Thunder Canyon that has a seatbelt? I think its just overkill...i mean whats next a seatbelt for the toilets?

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wdwcp alumni
future CP ride op?