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But Jo, we always just called it the lift chain :)

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MDOmnis said:

I counted 289 stairs to the top of Magnum's lift. Shari counted 288. Andy says it is 289. Whatever number Frank was giving in his spiels WAS a bunch of bull.
As for the seagulls being a recording, tell that to somone (me) who got crapped on by them three times this season! I think that tied for the lead in that department.

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LuvRaptor said:
Did you know?
Think MF is fast? The trains actually have the capability (given the space and time) to reach speeds of over 100mph

How do you mean this? That the trains themselves can go faster, if they were on a higher lift, or that the MF lift cable can actually speed the car up enough so that it'll hit 100MPH on the drop?
Because, it would need to be going about 57 MPH on the lift to hit that. (47MPH in a vacuum, but you'd need the extra 10 to overcome wind resistance to hit 100)
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*** This post was edited by Jman on 12/4/2001. ***

I think she meant the CP &LE trains. :)I have also heard the same thing many times but I wonder the validity of it.

The first steam Locomotive's to top 100 MPH were produced after W.W.I and those things were huge with big boilers and lots of drive wheels. I took a look in CPQOAWP and the first 2 engines dates back to 1902 and 1911. I'm not sure of the actual date of all our engines but since they were reconstructed they could have been upgraded to reach 100.

Still our biggest engine now is probably George and I think he has a 0-2-1 setup (No back wheels, 2 drives wheels and a front load wheel on each side.) I did some quick Internet research and most of the engines that claim to break 100 MPH have at least 6 drive wheels.

Don't trust me though, I'm not a railroad engineer. (just a history buff :))

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Nightime landscaping....now THAT would be a job I'd love.

Is that like Night Putting with the Dean's daughter?
"I ain't payin' no 50 cent for no Coke." "Ah, then you ain't gettin' no Coke."
Heh...not exactly, although who knows what the landscapers do in those bushes at night. They need an old broad like me to make sure they get all those flowers planted properly.
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--Dave Althoff, Jr.
Who hasn't checked CP's machines.

It's quite possible for MF to go faster. I feel this mostly in the night time when I ride MF, but sometimes when you get near the top of the hill you feel the elevator pick up speed a little bit. I don't know if it's natural for it to do that or if the operator is pushing hte speed.. Also since all modern elevators have computerized controls to maintain speed and other various factors. The speed control can be placed on a ride operators control panel.
So, If we pretend there is no friction and the standard train speed from a stopped position at the top of the hill is 80MPH. Then, if we watch the train getting pulled up the hill by the elevator travelling ot 12MPH the climb speed would then be added to fall speed and the train would fall at the normal 92 MPH. So presumably if the elevator lifted the train at a faster speed of 20MPH then the train would fall at 100MPH in a frictionless world. So, now the speed then has to be larger to overcome friction in the friction world. So lets say the elevator rises at 15MPH to achieve 92MPH and the elevator maybe rises at a speed of 24 to achieve 100MPH
Correct me if I'm totally wrong with this assumption, I didn't do any math, I just made up numbers. :) I didn't want to figure out the real data. :)
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You're wrong with that assumption. In a frictionless world, it would take a just over 32 MPH lift to break 100MPH on MF. Add in friction, and it would likely take a nearly 40 MPH lift to break 100. That's with actual calculations. Lift speed has nowhere near the effect you'd think on the final speed of a drop. For instance, the 12 MPH lift on MF only adds 0.75 MPH to the top speed, as opposed to a dead stop drop.
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I thought it would add more than 0.75.
Really, a coaster should get a 40mph lift. big air ~ lol
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Actually as for teh train thing George is a 2-4-0 not 0-2-1 you go by both sides and from the front of the engine not the back so switch it around and then add the wheels on the other side. Actually the first locomotive to break 100 MPH was New York Centrals 999 and that was in the 1890's. I am a railfan by the way so ya know, lol, this just adds more to my geekiness. 999 was a 4-4-2 I believe. The Milwaukee Road had teh fastest trains in the country with the Hiawaths and there engine were 4-4-4's. Anyway these engines had huge driving wheels upwards of 70 inches and huge sperheated boilers, the CPLE engines could never reach 100 MPH the valve gear just isnt right and you would never be able to get enough pressure with non superheated boilers besides teh fact that teh drivers are just way too small. No narrow gauge engine can reach those speeds I would think George would top out at about 50 mph with a full head of steam and the regualtor opened WAYYYYYYY up.

LOL, ok you can be the resident railroad expert. :). All I know is I've seen pictures of those trains and they make even George look like a Herschell kiddie train.

Flisk.. the speed up your'e feeling on MF is the lift cable motors going to "full speed" because the last train just cleared the brake run block.

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