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kylepark said:

Paisley said:

kylepark said:

Amen. Get rid of all of them. Put your stuff in a locker. Someone please pass this on to the new park manager.

Yeah, because I really want to go sprinting halfway across the park to my over priced locker when I suddenly need the bag with my family's rain ponchos in it. If you want to save time at the bins forbid people from wearing flip flops and stop selling the giant refillable cups. That's probably 90% of what's in the bins.

Then leave all those articles with a non-rider. Get rid of the bins.

Not every family has a non-rider.

This is very true ^^^ I refuse to allow non riders at the park with me, so every group I go with rides coasters. Now I am not one that buys the giant refillable cup of coke or wins a basketball to carry around and annoy people all day, but I always wear flip flops and usually sunglasses. This makes boxes on rides where flip flops are not acceptable very important. It's also nice for my sun glasses seeing as I am usually in swim trunks as I split my time with soak city. I think the park should crack down on the items allowed in the storage units. Free lockers are a great concept however flip flops or sandals alone remain a problem, that and I doubt CF is willing to give away the profits made from lockers.

Here is the solution to flip flops/sandals... Sit on them.

Bluestreaker said:
Take all the bins out of all the stations. You should not be allowed to carry anything on any ride. The only exception would be for glasses and flip-flops on a few rides. If you have to have all your "stuff" with you, then stay home!

I seriously hate it when people say this. Some people come to the park alone and like to get a souvenir or two. Those that come with others don't want to be restricted because of their stuff. If there is no bins your basically saying you can't ride. Maybe they don't have the dough to get a locker, or their "stuff" won't fit in the locker. I burn (sunburn) real easy and i need to have some sunscreen with me. This doesn't exactly fit well in pockets with a phone, keys and water already stuffed in. I mean falling objects sounds fun. We are all coaster guys and gals so our views are biased to just ride as many things as we can in a day while skipping the souvenir stuff and the games. Remember, we are the minority. Most people who go to parks just go to hang out and do whatever. Most of them don't go home to Pointbuzz and talk about the next big ride. We complain about all the little stuff and just want to ride everything as often as we can. These bins do definitely slow capacity, but just look at how many people use the bins. The amount of people they would have to turn down would slow capacity down even more. Less rides for us. All I'm just saying is there is a reason Cedar Point still uses bins. They do read this stuff and yeah we may influence a little but we are, again, the minority of people and they look at the big picture to the people that are going to really spend some cash at the park and play all the games and get all the souvenirs. We are all entitled to our own opinion, thats just what I think.

That's one of the worst ideas I have ever heard. Raptor and twister would easily allow any item you sit on to become free and hurt someone. Solution is move fast and put things away and get the heck out of the way.

^^If you absolutely cannot imagine a world where an amusement park has lockers because it somehow greatly inconveniences you, then definitely don't visit a six flags park, where lockers are mandatory. What is the harm in putting your things in a locker before getting in line and actually getting to get on the ride quicker?

Agreed..plus I don't know where or when that idea started, but it's def not something that is or should be in the SOP. By definition it is still a loose article.

If I saw that on the platform I'd still have them place shoes in a bin if needed.

I've worn flip flops before and was told to sit on them. Whether or not they were in the wrong, I don't know. But it worked for me.

It will work probably just about every time...but there can always be that one time that it isn't alright that something happens.

Plus like I said not being the SOP..Park Op being the way it is with policy changing last thing I'd do is want an operational or something happen because of something like that

Looking at it from a business standpoint in today's world with all of the frivolous lawsuits. Just that one in a million chance that someone would be hurt from a sandal it makes it worth having a place to put loose fitting shoes. I am for restricting the items allowed in the bins to reduce load times.

How much time does anyone really think is lost to people placing and retrieving things from the bins? Yeah, we're in a hurry to get on but think about it...if you've just waited in line an hour for Maverick does the extra 30-60 seconds that is "wasted' on people going to and from the bins really matter?

It's not just 30-60 seconds, it's 30-60 seconds per train.
If you're waiting an hour and a half, that adds up to a significant amount of time.

Maverick's lines always feels significantly slower than the other coasters.

The 30-60 seconds will add up over time but that itself really isn't my point. My point is that we willingly wait for long amounts of time to get on a ride for our pleasure but will gripe about the few extra minutes we were made to wait because not everyone can travel as light as we believe they should be able to. Some people may be able to spend the entire day with nothing but car keys, a phone and a wad of money in their pocket but that isn't realistic for everyone.

Mav has nearly identical capacity to MF the difference that makes the line seem to move slower. The size of the train as well as how they control the flow of the loading platform. The storage units do have a small impact on load times on occasion but not as much as people are making it out to be.

Coming from a TL of Maverick last year, I can tell you MF and Maverick's capacity is far from the same. MF blows Maverick's capacity out of the water. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to share the exact capacity Maverick/ MF actually get(not theoretical). So, instead of compromising my job for next summer I will not say exactly what they get on average.

The bins don't really slow down the capacity on the ride either it's the rides interval that is programmed into the ride when trains can be sent. the next set of trains can not be sent till the second train is entering the tunnel. Maverick has plenty of time, for the guests to put stuff in the bin , and the employees to check seats. A lot of the time we are waiting on the ride to be able to send trains.

The lockers are there for a reason. If you don't like the price of them, don't bring all kinds of items in the park. Once the park removes the bins, they can be thrown into a wood pile on the beach for a bonfire. Let resort guests unwind after a day in the park with refreshments sitting in front of a nice warm fire.

Most of the people complaining about the bins are the same people who praise FL. The bins don't slow the lines down anymore than FL does. If you have to get rid of the bins because it slows down the line then you need to get rid of FL too. Also think about the bins from a business perspective. Do you want to discourage people from buying souvenirs? If you take away bins that make people less likely to make those impulse buys at the souvenir stands. People will think "hey if i buy this then i have to pay a couple dollars to ride any ride or i have to take a long walk out to the car".

TTD doesn't have bins. You have to rent a locker. The rides only 16 seconds long. So shouldn't they be sending a train out every 16 seconds? Most rides I've been on the trains have to wait for the all clear before they move anyways. Got to make sure everyones in their seat. There is big difference between how long it takes to get into your seat and how long it will be before the train can leave.

Off subject, but this reminds me of my last trip this year. Some lady was to big to ride Millenium on our train. And this happens alot. I see it a bunch. I feel sorry for the people involved. Anyways they released our restraints. This lady was behind us and we didn't see what was going on. Our restraints weren't rechecked on my side of the car. There were 2 single riders in front of us both sitting on my wifes side. The person 2 seats in front of us never put the restraint down in the empty seat. They E stopped the ride while we were on the lift. Came up in the basket about 15 minutes later and put the empty seat restraint down. When we returned to the station we got to reride. Awesome we got to ride twice because she couldn't. It took 25 minutes to send one train. I don't really think it has anything to do with the bins!

It would be cool if every time someone makes the walk of shame the rest of the train got to reride!

redsfan said:
Some lady was to big to ride Millenium on our train. And this happens alot. I see it a bunch. I feel sorry for the people involved. Anyways they released our restraints.

Yes I this is more and more common. It is sad and also disruptive mock seats are placed at the gates of most major coasters with employees to gelt "test" fit the mock seats. I right off the bat think that people should be made to test fit the seats. I understand it's difficult to handle for the employee. I am sure someone has sued someone somewhere over this or a similar thought. Does CP instruct their staff to stop more full figured guests and have them test fit prior to waiting in line? Or instruct them not to?

It's encouraged but not forced.