Cedar Point Police?

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Red Garter Rob said:
Alot of the SF parks do have them. SFMM has them but of course they have a demographic problem being that close to L.A.

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Actually, last time I went to SFMM, they actually had metal detector wands rather than using the metal detector doorways (lol, they probably broke and they didn't want to fix them)! That meant the security guards told you to spread your legs and arms and they outlined your body. The problem is not in LA demographics, its in how SFMM seems to attract them. It seems like every day is gangster appreciation day. Over at KBF, which is closer to south central (by milege), you never see any fights break out. 80% of the guests come in families. Yeah, until haunt that is, which attracts some of the worst, drunk CSU Long Beach/Fullerton students. You see them removing people left and right and they institute metal detectors. SFMM is the only LA park that screens guests with metal detection, except *maybe* USH. BTW, SFMM security was accused of being racist and brutal in a recnt news investigation.

There are many "private" police forces in the US but most are sworn Deputies of the local County Sheriff, As an example my employers Security forces Arm patches say Special Deputy, Community Hospitals of Indianapolis, Mairon County the "guards" just say Security.

But one major exception is Railroad Cops, who do infact have all the powers of US Marshals.

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kneemeister

"If you look to the left side of the train you will see the Coasters of Cedar Point"

Can non-bonded officers make arrests? Just wondering because my friend told me they carry cuffs.

I think they can cuff someone, but they have to wait for a bonded officer to come before they can make the arrests. But I could be wrong, someone correct me?

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Millennium Force/Screamsters 2002
Rip Cord/Screamsters 2003

I do not want to find out in any case so I think that I will be a good lad this year!

Actually, I emailed cedar point yesterday and they emailed me back today. They said non-bonded officers can indeed make an arrest if one is needed! They said the only difference between bonded officers and non-bonded officers is that non-bonded officers are not certified by the state of Ohio to carry a firearm. I also asked what they do at the gates without metal detectors; and they said the officers do random bag checks not depending on race. I asked if they had cameras or anything and they said they cannot comment on the security measures the park has taken in the post Sept 11th world. And only cedar point police officers(bonded and non-bonded) know about the security secrets! They wouldn't comment on anything else for security reasons in which I understand. I'm glad they have taken these security measures and I can now enjoy my fun filled day at the best amusement park on earth without worrying about my safety!

Was your "safety" really a concern? I dunno, it seems to me that too many people are on the verge of panicking over the looming threat of terrorism. I mean, it is one thing to keep an eye out for shady characters and to be mindful of the nearest exits, but I think many have gone way too far. I say, take a deep breath, pray to the deity of your choice, and move on with your life. I mean really, are you going to trust your fate to mylar and duct tape?

BTW: There is a *ton* of law enforcement out here, including the Metro Officers, the Transit Cops, and the Park Police. (Not to mention the FBI, CIA, Secret Service, US Marshalls, blah, blah, blah,)

lata, jeremy

ARC DAY said:
Actually, I emailed cedar point yesterday and they emailed me back today. They said non-bonded officers can indeed make an arrest if one is needed! They said the only difference between bonded officers and non-bonded officers is that non-bonded officers are not certified by the state of Ohio to carry a firearm.

This is a lie. Non-Bonded officers are not permitted to make arrests. Being certified by the state gives you the authority to make arrests, so long as you are commissioned by a law enforcement agencies. Whether or not you carry a gun is not necessarily the issue.

Un-certified officers can NOT make misdemeanor arrests (any civilian can make a felony arrest, you don't need to be a cop).

Non-Bonded officers can ASSIST in making an arrest, so long as it is at the direction of a bonded officer (again, no different than any civilian).

Red Garter Rob said:
Yeah Sam.. The various "Municipal" police forces of Cleveland and other cities like that are still goverened and bonded as one unit.

"Private" police forces such as campus cops and the like are not considered as a "police force" even if bonded.

It's a technicality I know but the article that 99er is refering too isn't the only thing to site this. The Discovery Channel special on CP referenced this also if I remember. Haven't seen it in a while.

This is 100% not true. 100%. I have no idea where that ridiculous information is coming from.

In Ohio, the Revised Code (http://codes.ohio.gov/orc) has separate sections authorizing the different types of law enforcement entities in Ohio. There is a section for municipalities. There is another section for the State Patrol. There is another section for private policing. There is another section for university law enforcement. There is another section for sheriff's offices...etc, etc, etc.

Multiple agencies are not "governed and bonded as one unit." The Cleveland Police are there own unit. Cleveland State University Police are there own unit. They are authorized to be their own unit by separate sections of the Revised Code. One does not rely on the other, and both are considered law enforcement agencies in their own right.

As such, the private police forces, housing authorities, campus police forces, Airport Police, etc etc are all considered legitimate "law enforcement agencies" under the Ohio Revised Code, and have the same authority as any other. None of theses agencies are "governed and bonded" with any other agency as was suggested.

Please don't post if you don't know what you are talking about. And, just to close the loop on this, here are a few examples of the ORC authorizing the state bonding of police officers for various agencies:

University Police
codes.ohio.gov/orc/3345.04

Metro Housing Authorities
codes.ohio.gov/orc/3735.31 (see section D)

Tranist Authority Police
codes.ohio.gov/orc/306.35

Veteran's Home Police
codes.ohio.gov/orc/5907.02

Port Authority Police (Airport Police)
codes.ohio.gov/orc/4582.04

Thank you for clearing that up 10 years later.

WallPaint said:
Please don't post if you don't know what you are talking about.

Welcome, new user. Thank you for digging up a 10 year old thread and providing your thoughts in a condescending and high-handed manner.