Boats playing obscene music at CP beach

Spent Sunday afternoon on the beach and had mostly a good time except for a group of boats blaring obscene music that carried across the beach.

I reported the problem to CP security who said they cannot do anything.

Sent an email to CP. Same response. Can’t do anything. Passed the buck.

Really?! Doesn’t Sandusky have any disturbing the peace or noise ordinances?

I’m not a prude but the lyrics from Jax the Uncrowned Ruler are not appropriate for a beach with families. Look it up.

is this a common issue with boaters and CP?
is there really nothing CP can do in these situations?

Sandusky likely does have a noise ordinance but would that extend out into the lake? I would imagine not.

Am I in a minority of people who aren't under the misimpression that my children know far more "naughty" words than I'd rather admit? Yes, it sucks that someone was blaring music at an inconsiderate volume, but my thinking is that if your kids can hear and understand those words, and already know that they're "naughty", what's the actual harm beyond annoyance at the loud music?

Brandon, for me it's not that they don't know the words. It's the arrangements/message of those words that I wouldn't want kids to understand or repeat at such a young age. I don't have kids but some other ongoing life events have me seriously thinking about that these days.

The artist bgiese mentioned, Jax the Uncrowned Ruler, top song on genius is called "Did you wash your p***y today?"

Which has lyrics containing the following:

I can smell that b***h a mile away (Ew)

Yuck, that s**t gross (F**k)

Yeah, I don't want s*x, I want throat

Censoring adding in respect for the site and users. Jeff, Walt, Kevin if that's still too much please let me know and I'd be happy to remove/edit that section of the post.

I wouldn't want my kids ever talking like that to a young woman or any woman for that matter. Why music artists are allowed to get away with I cannot comprehend. But especially younger impressionable children that like to repeat things before understanding them I would have an issue with that music being played loud enough to be heard clearly on the beach.

In that case I would do two things. First remove my family from the situation because I can't make them turn the music off, second like 99er pointed out, if Sandusky PD doesn't have jurisdiction in that area the local DNR certainly does, I'd report the boaters behavior to both and let them handle it. If at such a time it's addressed either by a lowered volume or the boaters being removed from the area then we'll come back and enjoy the beach. If not, there's an entire peninsula to enjoy.

Long gone are the days that we would snicker when CKLW or WIXY 1260 would play the Isley Brothers, Fight the Power and they would beep out the one word "with all the bulls--- going down". Or Steve Miller Band, Jet Airliner "all that funky s--- going down in the city".

Our 7th grade teacher at St.Thomas warned us not to listen to Steve Miller's The Joker. He scolded us saying "do you know what a "toker" is?"

I'd be really surprised if the DNR has the right to censor music. Lacking a noise ordinance on Lake Erie, I doubt anything could be done.

I'm betting on a noise ordinance with the high end houses in that area of the coast. If not I'd be surprised, but then neither the PD or DNR can do anything and that's that.

TwistedCircuits:

I wouldn't want my kids ever talking like that to a young woman or any woman for that matter.

In my experience kids' behavior has less to do with what words/phrases they know and more to do with parenting. Pretending words/phrases don't exist isn't a great strategy. Explaining why words/phrases are or are not appropriate given a particular setting seems to work better than pretending they don't exist or clutching one's pearls at their utterance.

In other words, if someone's kids think it's OK to speak to someone that way, it ain't because they heard it on the beach.

TwistedCircuits:
Why music artists are allowed to get away with I cannot comprehend.

Because free speech is a thing that exists, and thank goodness.

How would one "report a boater's behavior"? How would you identify them? Curious about how that would work.

SarahB1863:

How would one "report a boater's behavior"?

TwistedCircuits:

Why music artists are allowed to get away with I cannot comprehend

https://www.archives.gov/fo...rievances.

I’m all for free speech but I all would expect some decorum in public.

Plus the use of loudspeakers to play the music at a loud enough volume to be heard hundreds of feet away.

There is no constitutional right to amplified speech.

sure… I could remove my family from the beach but our plan was to be on the beach, Sunday.
it’s sad as a society that we can’t share the beach without intruding on each other’s enjoyment.

bgiese:

There is no constitutional right to amplified speech.

The government can impose reasonable limits on speech, yes. Suppressing amplified music during the day at a public beach next to an amusement park would hardly qualify as reasonable.

Does it not occur to you that to require them to tone down their music might intrude on their enjoyment? Are they not entitled to what they consider or be a harmless good time? You didn’t like it, but no one got hurt.
Knowing that you reported them to everyone expecting results makes me laugh. Cedar Point beach and the vast lake it borders are no one’s personal bubbles.
I think this definitely falls into the category of “Things I should take care of for myself”. And yes, I know you’d probably have to swim out to make a kind request. Oh well, life’s indignities certainly suck, don’t they?
I understand your concern for your kids’ protection. But I would always try to turn a situation like this into a teaching opportunity. “Dad, why do they have to be so loud over there?” “Honey, it’s because they’re a**holes and you’ll find that every once in a while you’ll have that and there won’t be anything to do about it but just ignore and go on about minding your own business. And remember, we can always go somewhere else.” It beats the crybaby lesson every time.

Part of it is that today people don't give a rip about their environment. People holding a phone call on speaker in a group of people is a good example. People blasting music out of their car with the bass all the way up so it shakes my car. What makes people think I want to hear their conversation or their awful music? They just don't care what everyone else thinks.

What Dan said..."permitted" or not, whether we can do anything about it or not clearly the people in the boat were being jerks. Being a jerk seems to be really popular these days. I know those words obviously but does that mean I have to listen to them while I'm at the beach? They have a boat, there's no reason they can't just go farther out into the lake and then they can play whatever they want as loud as they want and it wouldn't be bothering anyone.

Brandon, EXITEnglish, you make an important distinction, thank you. Musicians have the political right to use whatever speech they decide. And I'm glad they do.

I was making a statement about how societally I don't hear music making those statements getting treated the same way as other mediums of expression. I've seen movies that are older get blasted for that sort of treatment towards others.

In light of your point though, my comment was more of a political question as to why some things are treated one way for one instance but different for another instance. And likely didn't add to the conversation as your clearly pointed out first amendment rights which would be the key item here and not why musician x is allowed to say y while actor b isn't allowed to say a. Different forum for that conversation.

Thank you both.

^What? You lost me. I don't think you're using the word "allowed" properly. "Actor b" certainly is "allowed" to "say a."