Best strategy for getting out of the parking lot?

I believe it is round-a-boot

Cargo Shorts said:

It is pronounced Roundabound

I thought this was settled.

Dammit you beat me to it. It will forever more be known as a roundabound.

Shades, I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Cartwright said:

In and around the lake.

Yes, Cartwright, it appears as though nobody else remembers that great song. Would have loved to have seen them on that round stage at the center of the Coliseum.

Yes, I do.

1000 years of force said:

If you place your trebuchet at the out-flow bridge for Thunder Canyon and point it at downtown Sandusky...

Would that be a 150th Anniversary Special Edition trebuchet?

That's what the parade needs, a trebuchet sending cars sailing over the Pavilion into Lake Erie...

Shades said:

I believe it is round-a-boot

Only in Canada…

TwistedCircuits said:

Where is the roundabout supposed to be?

Cleveland Rd & Cedar Point Dr

Which will be interesting. I'm as big a fan of roundabouts as anyone, but that intersection? I guess we'll see.

djDaemon said:

TwistedCircuits said:

Where is the roundabout supposed to be?

Cleveland Rd & Cedar Point Dr

Which will be interesting. I'm as big a fan of roundabouts as anyone, but that intersection? I guess we'll see.

I don't see how it would work. The key to a roundabout is that traffic on one side yields to traffic on the other as it goes in a circle, and then proceeds when there's a break. On busy mornings I foresee neither side having any kind of break in the flow of traffic, with the end result that the traffic just stops on one side or the other, or creeps along because the only way it moves at all is if it goes "car on the left - car on the right - car on the left - car on the right". How would that be more efficient than what's there now?

Well, the majority of traffic is one way in the AM, and the other way in the PM, so I don't know if flow will be a problem. Or maybe two ways - EB and WB Cleveland Rd traffic, with the majority being EB. So in theory and hopefully in practice EB will empty out allowing WB, then back to EB and so on, so that there are fewer backups.

What I'm concerned with is people's apparent inability to understand how to navigate roundabouts correctly. Too often I find myself behind someone who insists on stopping (or nearly stopping) before entering regardless of whether or not there's anyone already in the roundabout (who has right-of-way). When that happens the efficiency of the roundabout plummets dramatically.

Is some of the nearly stopping due to the design of the roundabout? I have seen a few whose entrance is a very narrow, sharp curve. It is hard to take those with much speed at all, otherwise you run a real risk of smacking into the curb.

No, in the cases I've seen, people either slow unnecessarily to a crawl or come to a complete stop, verify there's no one coming, then proceed. It's maddening.

Charitably, these are folks who were understandably trained to treat a traditional intersection yield sign as a stop sign, and haven't been retrained not to do so in a roundabout, where one can much more easily see whether or not they need to yield right-of-way. But still, maddening.

It’s all those damn Gold Passholders.

Cargo Shorts said:

It’s all those damn Gold Passholders.

HEY

The American learning curve towards roundabouts is both maddening and humorous, depending on the day I'm having.

Then again, we still use the Imperial system of measurement and won't accept a free, safe exit from a pandemic and...

I should probably stop there.

Go Cedar Point!

Something with roundabounds I haven’t figured out is even with a 2 lane roundabound you have to yield to both lanes when entering, so exactly what is the point of having 2 (or more) lanes? Edit. Never mind, figured it out. It is to let 2 lanes enter simultaneously.

I think part of the learning curve issue is many of us have never been trained on one. I haven’t taken a drivers written exam in about 20 years when I moved to NE and they required it and there was nothing about roundabounds in the book or test.

Yestderday (Tuesday) was packed. Pulled out of the CPS lot at 10:08 expecting a nightmare from reports here (yes we spent 3 hours at CPS in the afternoon). There was no delay except for 60 seconds at the main lot where guard let’s the handicap/front rows out onto Perimeter. A quick glance over at the main lot looked ugly.

Yep, that exit along handicap row is great.

Cargo Shorts said:

I think part of the learning curve issue is many of us have never been trained on one.

This is usually the argument I hear or that they just aren't used enough for us to be comfortable with them. But I never learned about them years ago in drivers ed but yet I have never not known how to use one. They typical have pavement markings or signs that clearly show you what to do and if they don't, well there is only one way you can go if you understand the flow of traffic. I dunno....I'll never understand why people have a hard time with them.

I think for many it is understanding rights of way and remembering what each lane is supposed to do especially in 2 or more lane roundabounds. For instance if you are in the outside lane in a 2 lane configuration you must exit on the 2nd exit (continue straight) otherwise you will collide with the vehicle on the inside lane exiting. I agree there are clear signs but things become not so clear while driving with limited time to interpret the symbolic signs. Add night and inclement weather into the mix makes it even more difficult. Some of the stripping at one I have frequented recently does confuse me.

I hit 4 or 5 on the route my kids school and find them useful if there are sufficient breaks to enter, but on occasion you may as well just put your vehicle in park until the vehicle train passes. The one I have had the most problems with is about 1/2 mile from a railroad crossing that can cause a big jam at certain times of the day, in both directions. So the circle gets jammed from the train and then again once that starts to clear when the 1/2 mile long backup from the other side of the tracks starts arriving.