area 51

Okay, let's all take look at this shot to examine the area:

http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=1793&y=22969&z=17&w=2

i agree, leave the antique cars in frontier town alone. lots of shade. time to put something around the turnpike cars and the old pirate ride location. too much empty space over there, unless you like cement.

Kylepark,

Looking at that picture, I didn't realize how much space the swans took up.

IIMHO, the Swan ride was a good place for my little one to unwind a little. Even if he usually tried to get me wet by steering close to the fountain.

They will most likely use the queue as part of the "U.R. DADE" line during Halloweekends.

Better pic of the area:

http://ora.plutonia.us/images/newarea51.jpg

If anyone is interested, I mapped out a design of what a B&M flier would look like back there.
http://img59.photobucket.com/albums/v181/Rcjoshman/bmflyer.bmp

my theory is that they will take down white water landing. They had a problem with it last year. The boats got stuck at the bottom and some wrecked. Cedar Fair suffered some lawsuits. That will most likely not happen again since I am sure that they have sinced fixed the problem, but I think that there are plans in the making to tear it down along with the trees over in that area. That would be enough space to put in another record breaking coaster! But I could be wrong of course.

I highly doubt CP will raze WWL. It just wouldn't be right to remove another log flume ride. Mill Race was reasonable considering it had a 30-year run and there was another ride of it's kind in the park (WWL), which was much larger and newer.

However, what about constructing part of a new B&M flyer over Thunder Canyon? I remember hearing something about Dorney considering to do that with Talon, but zoning or some other restriction prohibited the idea. Can it be done at CP? Just imagine flying really close to the stream of TC!

That is a possibility. I understand cp not wanting to knock down there only log ride, but it just seems like so much space for that one hill.

Still waiting for a Shivering timbers type ride down the right side of the parking lot along the beach I think I'll call this area 51A ---then I won't forget where I parked---lol

Why not knock out WWL and put an up to date one in there....a la dudley do right's rip saw falls

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Top Thrill Dragster said:
If anyone is interested, I mapped out a design of what a B&M flier would look like back there.
http://img59.photobucket.com/albums/v181/Rcjoshman/bmflyer.bmp[/quote]

If your right I will give you a cookie.

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I think that we will be saying goodbye to Antique Cars, with much of the a B&M flyer occupying that space. Then they could possibly relocate Wave Swinger to make way for a leap over the midway, similar to AIR, and some elements over the old Swan Boats pond, as well as a leap back over to the Antique Cars plot of land. All I ask, and plead, is that if they use this area for the new ride, that they preserve those massive trees that occupy the area. Those are some of the oldest, coolest trees that give the most shade remaining on the peninsula, and it would be a shame to see them removed.

A flyer wouldn't necessarily have to dominate the back of the park's skyline since building the tallest would be well under the height of Mean Streak. They could also fill the box spine with pea gravel to silence the trains as they traverse the track in an attempt to maintain some serenity about the area.

I think it would be cool, and very marketable for them to give the ride some kind of a bat or vampire theme since that area of the park gets decked out during HalloWeekends. It would be also be a nice addition to an area of the park that hasn't seen a new ride in over a decade.

i really think that you will be seeing the station in the old swan boat area and lift hill start from there and go up over Thunder canyon and make it way around in the area in the middle of thunder canyon and then come back around to go tords them Antique cars and be build up over the antique cars with some elements then and then come back to the station. Either that or a tight layout like sliver bullet is in the area of the swan boats and thunder canyon.

I just don't see a new coaster coming, at least not for a couple years or so.

I think anyone who thinks the park needs a B&M flyer hasn't been on one. I was thoroughly not impressed. They got burned with a fad ride once when they built Mantis.

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CP/PKIdude said:

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Top Thrill Dragster said:
If anyone is interested, I mapped out a design of what a B&M flier would look like back there.
http://img59.photobucket.com/albums/v181/Rcjoshman/bmflyer.bmp

If your right I will give you a cookie.

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Whad kind of cookie?

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Jeff said:
I think anyone who thinks the park needs a B&M flyer hasn't been on one. I was thoroughly not impressed. They got burned with a fad ride once when they built Mantis.

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Superman - Ultimate Escape at SFGA is a great ride! I was very impressed with the ride experience and believe that even the exact same layout at CP would be a great investment for the park. The feeling that the ride gives is like no other ride found in CP at this time. Mantis was a bad idea and a fad ride for the park but a flyer is not a bad idea. The load time of the ride is very fast when ran properly and the rides are easily capable of running 3 trains. I could see CP having a flyer that cycles as many people as the Raptor does. I believe you are wrong when you say that flyers from B&M are not impressive, the back row on Superman - Ultimate Flight is insane, especially in the Pretzel Loop.

Jeff, I'd have to agree. A B&M flyer like S:UF would be like TTD for me -- a ride if the line is short, but not a must ride. The only reason I did multiple rides on S:UF was due to the ERT from last year's CoasterBuzzCon.

I also agree with Jeff. The B&M flyer was not all taht exciting. X-Flight at Geauga Lake has a better thrill to it, but the B&M Flyer has a more comfortable restraint.

I don't see that type of ride having the longevity, although I wouldn't complain if we got one.

I would really like to see more B&M though. Even though they aren't the tallest, the have some nice elements and action to them, including a lot of airtime.