Are We Looking At This Track Wrong?

i'm wondering....if it is an L-TH-B coaster....why the land bridge to the island...seen Here, it looks like there has been some traffic to the island.

and why bring in 2 huge cranes,

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*** This post was edited by Big D 10/12/2002 11:29:10 PM ***

I'm not convinced there isn't more to it. There are some damn big footers being poured next to what I assume is the launch run.

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Ya Jeff! I was thinking the same thing while i was there. Those Footers are HUGE, and they are really close together. Plus they are way out of line to be in the launch or pullout run. It seems like some awfully big pieces of steel would attatch to those footers. At least bigger pieces than the "Launch Run" supports are. By the way, does anyone notice the modified supports on both the launch and pullout runs? Most of the grey supports have been cut and rewelded together. Here. What would cause such a dramatic and widespread change to a coaster like this. Was something measured wrong? I dont know, but this seems like something that should not happen to a multimillion dollar project. Granted everyone makes mistakes; could it be that the design was slightly modified at the last minute? (time being relative, seeing these parts were most likely made quite a while ago) I dunno. Something just doesent fit here. Just when things begin to look clear, a curveball is thrown into the works!

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*** This post was edited by SteveHockey4 10/13/2002 1:27:04 AM ***

I saw the forms in place for those big footers, I was assuming they were for some equipment, possibly some of the launch equipment. On the surface, everything points to a L-TH-B layout, but I agree that there seems to be some stuff going on to put a little bit of doubt on that. The activity on the path leading to the island may be a clue. I don't know, I'm leaning towards the L-TH-B layout, but there may be a few surprises in store!

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Plus, the track sitting in the parking lot twists at various degrees of severity. Some of it looks like its for the twist into the tophat, but some of it looks (to me) far to gradual, like maybe for entering an overbank or something. Very strange.

yea this is definatly not for a tophat...its a piece of curved track...that starts to bank right....by looking at the track so far, i am convinced it won't be an L-TH-B....but by looking at the footers...i'm not so convinced.

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That piece could easily be for the start of the twist for the tophat/outgoing twist.

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wouldnt it be straight??....the pull out is over and the track is straight up there.

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hmm, maybe...its hard to tell from that angle how much it curves and how much it twists. To me, it looks like it curves too much to be part of the tophat twist.

There are three things that I have not seen anyone mention yet.

1.) I agree with the conclusion the the brake run will turn left into the station, but what prevents the brake run from being outside the parallel footers, making the station on the far side of the tower? Unfortunately, the arrengement of grey supports now disproves this theory, but that is ok.

2.) If the trains hit vertical around the 200 foot mark, why not twist 270 degrees instead of 90 degrees? Yes, it would be similar to an impulse then, but that may be a possible explanation for the amount of twisted track on site.

3.) This picture seems to show a piece of track (the middle of the three lined up) that has the support connection sticking up. This looks like it could be the top of a hill (it curves opposite the way the pullup/pullout track does). The more I look at it though, the more it seems to be twist towards the far end, but that just makes it that much more of an odd piece. A twist on a piece curving that way seems to signify something much more than L-TH_B, but I guess we'll find out.

If anyone agrees/disagrees or sees something different, please post!

-Robocoasterdude

Just a question:
In Xcelerator, for the top of the tophat is there 2 pieces of track or is it just 1 curved piece? And whatever the answer is,is there any pieces of track for the tophat currently at CP?
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Robocoasterdude,

In regards to paragraph number 3 I believe either two things....Either it is a hill or the top of the tophat which would make the structure different than xcelerator will have support beams..Their is another picture in the group that solidfies what you are saying even more...

Proof of either a Xcelerator style tophat (not inverted) or additional elements!!! The curved piece of track in the front of this picture.....

http://www.setecx.com/pics/cp101202const/imagepages/PICT0151.html

...shows that it is either a piece for a normal tophat, or for part of another hill somewhere else. I will explain: Look at what look like white stripes on the the rails near the ground. This is an unpainted portion of rail where the wheel sets fit around the track. Look at Millenium next time you are in line. There is no paint where the wheels ride along the track. In this case, the red track is actually upside down in the parking lot. The only two ways to explain this type of track are 1) a normal tophat like Xcelerator or 2) another hill as part of an aditional element. I think its for the tophat personally, what do you think?

I'm not really sure what to think, all indications point to L-TH-B but some things still seem mysterious. Like the bridges to the island. If they were not going to work out that way, why do that. Draining that large of an area in the lagoon. Part of it I can understand but that much? Also I did notice the same large footers Jeff was talking about and there are some marking out over the midway towards the breakers lot. Could be that they are waiting till the end of the season before they tear up the midway? It would be cool to have another coaster go out over the midway.

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sigma one said:
Proof of either a Xcelerator style tophat (not inverted) or additional elements!!! The curved piece of track in the front of this picture.....

http://www.setecx.com/pics/cp101202const/imagepages/PICT0151.html

...shows that it is either a piece for a normal tophat, or for part of another hill somewhere else. I will explain: Look at what look like white stripes on the the rails near the ground. This is an unpainted portion of rail where the wheel sets fit around the track. Look at Millenium next time you are in line. There is no paint where the wheels ride along the track. In this case, the red track is actually upside down in the parking lot. The only two ways to explain this type of track are 1) a normal tophat like Xcelerator or 2) another hill as part of an aditional element. I think its for the tophat personally, what do you think?

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Notice there are no support attachments.

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ok i noticed this when i was the cedar point yesterday but the supports coming from the pull up and down are on an angle and correct me if i'm wrong since i never been on a launch coaster but isn't the track supposed to be flat

Xcellerator is launched at an angle.

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Big D said:

Notice there are no support attachments.

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You are right, and I now think that it will be more than an L-TH-B because of this picture.

http://www.setecx.com/pics/cp101202const/imagepages/PICT0151.html

and this picture (the 2nd piece of track in the middle)

http://www.setecx.com/pics/cp101202const/imagepages/PICT0158.html

these both show track pieces that curve enough for the top of a tophat. Also, the second one appears to curve on the far end. I could be wrong though, because the first piece could be the one that leads into the tophat, and the second may not be curved and is the actual top piece. This might be kind of confusing, but please look into these. Also, the construction on the island is suspitious.
*** This post was edited by UR_coaster 10/13/2002 3:50:46 PM ***

thanks mfrules i didn't know that