20 for 2020

By 2020, I'd like to see a few things.

1. CP's 19th coaster... a kid coaster to replace the stadium on the Wicked Twister midway.

2. CP's 20th coaster... a 400 or even 500 footer. To do this, they could take out Antique Cars and relocate them to Kings Island (at least CP would still have Cadillac Cars). The lift hill could start where Antique Cars are, go north to the area of the now defunct Sandcastle Suites, and turn around back there.

And 3. Cleaner Restrooms!!! These three things I'd like to see by 2020.

Cleaner restrooms I'd rather see. I went to Carowinds once this year, their restroom were so much better than CP's, I was in shock. They had urinal partitions!

I can see 20 by 2020, but not a 400/500 footer. Maybe a wooden GCI or a B&M flyer

I’ve seen a lot of people here mention the bathrooms at Cedar Point. I always shrugged it off like “Whatever, it’s a clean bathroom. You should check out Darien Lake’s bathrooms!” But then we went to a bunch of other CF parks this year and yes, Cedar Point is definitely behind in the bathroom department.

"Your objective is to have 20 coaster operating in your park by year 2020. Each with an excitement rating of at least 7.00"

I have not found CP restrooms to be dirty. They are clean 95% of the time. Yes they are out of date, but not dirty.

By the way, why do people call them bathrooms and restrooms? There is no place to take a bath and no place to rest. There are just toilets. Why not join the rest of the world and call it what it is--a toilet?

Bluestreaker said:
By the way, why do people call them bathrooms and restrooms? There is no place to take a bath and no place to rest. There are just toilets. Why not join the rest of the world and call it what it is--a toilet?

For the same reasons we park on a driveway and drive on a parkway. We Americans like to complicate things.

Bobb-z said:

By 2020, I'd like to see a few things.

1. CP's 19th coaster... a kid coaster to replace the stadium on the Wicked Twister midway.

2. CP's 20th coaster... a 400 or even 500 footer. To do this, they could take out Antique Cars and relocate them to Kings Island (at least CP would still have Cadillac Cars). The lift hill could start where Antique Cars are, go north to the area of the now defunct Sandcastle Suites, and turn around back there.

And 3. Cleaner Restrooms!!! These three things I'd like to see by 2020.

I'd take two out of three, with an emphasis on #3.

Really they just need to update many of their restrooms. The Arcade ones are particularly bad, and I'm using these often as they are closest to KK. If they put a kid coaster (I'd prefer a wild mouse style) where the stadium used to be I'd like bathrooms back there as well. One thing with kids is when they have to go, they have to go now so more restroom options around the kids areas would always be welcome.

The restrooms at first aid near KK are always nice and air conditioned, plus they have free sunscreen if you feel the need for additional applications during the day along with iced water.

I wouldn’t use them for a quick urinal stop, but for a sit down head call they’re are a good option.

Bluestreaker said:

I have not found CP restrooms to be dirty. They are clean 95% of the time. Yes they are out of date, but not dirty.

This is a great point. My park restrooms were cleaned regularly but I would constantly get complaints about them. I finally told my boss that, "you can put lipstick on a pig but you still don't want to kiss it." Sometimes no amount of cleaning will make a difference.

We put about $1.2 million into renovating our restrooms and now I actually get compliments on them. It has made a huge difference. My parks could be spotless and I could have the best amenities in the world but if my restrooms were perceived to be dirty then that was the memory people were left with (particularly women). $1.2 million is a lot of money to pour into bathrooms but it is some of the best money I've ever spent.

DSShives said:

Bluestreaker said:
By the way, why do people call them bathrooms and restrooms? There is no place to take a bath and no place to rest. There are just toilets. Why not join the rest of the world and call it what it is--a toilet?

For the same reasons we park on a driveway and drive on a parkway. We Americans like to complicate things.

Or that a certain restaurant chain calls themselves "Eat 'n Park" instead of "Park 'n Eat".

tedders55 said:...Really they just need to update many of their restrooms. The Arcade ones are particularly bad...

I actually prefer the arcade restrooms because they don't flush automatically. I hate getting sprayed on the rear with a mist of public toilet water while I'm in the middle of taking care of business. I avoid the very front restrooms because of this. Gross. I am disappointed that there are no paper towels in any of the restrooms anymore. Sometimes you just need a paper towel.

I don’t think they need to add a restroom near the stadium. There’s one over by Gatekeeper not that far away

By Gatekeeper, by the Coliseum, and by Matterhorn.

In the late 40’s, when automobile travel became a way of life, quick-service restaurants popped up along the highways catering to the public. Many of them served diners in their car. The term “drive in” hadn’t been coined yet and no matter what the name of the actual place was, they were commonly known as “park n eat”s.
Some Isaly’s executives were impressed by the new Frisch’s Big Boy in Cincinnati and decided to try the concept in Pittsburgh and open the first carhop service restaurant with thirteen stalls for cars. They contracted with Big Boy for the sandwich, decided to capitalize on the phrase “park n eat” for familiarity, but reversed the words to Eat n Park to make themselves unique. They no longer serve the Big Boy, and I think the carhops are all gone, too, but they carry the strange moniker to this day.
Just a little trivia lesson there for ya.

I’ve noticed the restrooms at Cedar Point are fairly clean. Many have been “updated” with naturestone-type floors for cleaning, and look ok. But I find them stuffy and smelly and the bugs find their way in. But really, for American amusement park restrooms they aren't bad. (Ever been to Camden? Knoebels? I rest my case).

The theme park restrooms in Europe were beautiful and sparkling clean. It came as a pleasant surprise and made me wonder why we can’t manage the same in the US.

Paisley said:

tedders55 said:...Really they just need to update many of their restrooms. The Arcade ones are particularly bad...

I actually prefer the arcade restrooms because they don't flush automatically. I hate getting sprayed on the rear with a mist of public toilet water while I'm in the middle of taking care of business. I avoid the very front restrooms because of this. Gross. I am disappointed that there are no paper towels in any of the restrooms anymore. Sometimes you just need a paper towel.

Yup, this so much. The auto flush was quite annoying at times. And no paper towels is very annoying, there are those moments where a hand dryer just does not cut it, I nerd to scrub.

As someone who works with auto-flush toilets and restrooms with no towels, I definitely agree that both situations are annoying.

Chief Wahoo said:

We put about $1.2 million into renovating our restrooms and now I actually get compliments on them. It has made a huge difference. My parks could be spotless and I could have the best amenities in the world but if my restrooms were perceived to be dirty then that was the memory people were left with (particularly women). $1.2 million is a lot of money to pour into bathrooms but it is some of the best money I've ever spent.

Cedar Fair / Cedar Point definitely has 1.2 million. They should use take that kind of money (nothing compared to the 25 million spent on coasters) and renovate their restrooms.

What I've always found interesting about the restrooms is how different they all are from one another. And who came up with the layouts? Take the one by Raptor's cue for example. You walk in and there are a couple urinals and a couple stalls and often times, people waiting. But if you walk around to the rear of the restroom there are more of both, but it seems like nobody knows they are there!

What I hate more than anything is the racket made by the accelerator dryers. Maybe it's just me, but it hurts my ears and generally is comparable to nails on a chalkboard. I think all the restroom buildings except a few need to be razed and start over. There's no solving the mufflehead problem, cause with the volume of traffic you couldn't feasibly have enter and exit doors, but there's so much room for improvement.

Last but not least... does anyone else hate the sinks where you have to press down the faucet and it spits a tiny bit of water at you for about 5 seconds, not enough to get the soap off your hands, so you have to press it again, but now you've touched a dirty faucet??

Before Raptor, the men's room by Raptor was actually a women's and men's room, that is why it is split with a funny layout. The back part of the men's room used to be the women's room. The current women's room was newly built when Raptor was installed.