CP 2017?

Go Intamin

Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:57 AM

Valravn was announced and pieces are starting to go vertical, so why not talk about CP's 2017 plans? I've heard an interesting rumor (not from one of Coaster Studios' "sources") that the coleseum would be converted into half dark ride and half arcade. Most likely a Triotech shooting dark ride with some coaster element in it. I've also heard a much less possible rumor of a launched RMC woodie interacting with Millennium Force on the island because the dinos' liscence ends after 2016.


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DSShives

Thursday, October 15, 2015 11:15 AM
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Go Intamin said:

Valravn was announced and pieces are starting to go vertical, so why not talk about CP's 2017 plans?

Maybe because we haven't even heard all of the plans and improvements for 2016?


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CPNostalgia

Thursday, October 15, 2015 11:20 AM
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I've heard an interesting rumor (not from one of Coaster Studios' "sources")

the coliseum would be converted into half dark ride and half arcade. Most likely a Triotech shooting dark ride with some coaster element in it. I've also heard a much less possible rumor of a launched RMC woodie interacting with Millennium Force on the island because the dinos' liscence ends after 2016.

So your source is every single person on pointbuzz?

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Go Intamin

Thursday, October 15, 2015 11:52 AM

CPNostalgia said:

I've heard an interesting rumor (not from one of Coaster Studios' "sources")

the coliseum would be converted into half dark ride and half arcade. Most likely a Triotech shooting dark ride with some coaster element in it. I've also heard a much less possible rumor of a launched RMC woodie interacting with Millennium Force on the island because the dinos' liscence ends after 2016.

So your source is every single person on pointbuzz?

No, half screamscape, half TPR forums


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Bluestreaker

Thursday, October 15, 2015 11:55 AM

Lets worry about 2017 sometime after the 2016 season begins. Now sit down and do your homework. You don't want to be like Peppermint Patty and just get D- all the time.

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CPNostalgia

Thursday, October 15, 2015 12:21 PM
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Go Intamin said:

CPNostalgia said:

I've heard an interesting rumor (not from one of Coaster Studios' "sources")

the coliseum would be converted into half dark ride and half arcade. Most likely a Triotech shooting dark ride with some coaster element in it. I've also heard a much less possible rumor of a launched RMC woodie interacting with Millennium Force on the island because the dinos' liscence ends after 2016.

So your source is every single person on pointbuzz?

No, half screamscape, half TPR forums

My point is that it's hypocritical to say your sources aren't unreliable even though they're just the same rumors that we've known about.


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CoasterGuy15

Thursday, October 15, 2015 2:09 PM
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People have been speculating putting a dark ride in the coliseum building since like 2013...

I would agree that something new will probably happen with the Dinosaur Island thing though if the license is indeed up.

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CoasterCam

Thursday, October 15, 2015 2:42 PM
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It's way too early to talk about this, but I would like to point out that since Valravn is coaster #18, all the park would have to do is build a triotech with a coaster portion #19, and they would be all set up to get #20 in 2020. 20 in 2020 would be a very cool marketing campaign.


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TwistedWicker77

Thursday, October 15, 2015 3:35 PM

I could have sworn Dinosaurs Alive has a 7 year agreement with all Cedar Fair parks. Not to mention, Kings Island installed theirs 1 year prior to Cedar Point's installation and I believe it is still there.

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CP Maverick

Thursday, October 15, 2015 4:37 PM

I'm curious why someone would believe TPR has better sources than PointBuzz? I'm at both sites and TPR feels significantly more like enthusiast wet dreams than educated guessing.

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Go Intamin

Thursday, October 15, 2015 4:54 PM

Guys, the thing I thought was interesting was the fact that they are keeping half of the arcade, not the dark ride part...


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Pete

Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:34 PM
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I don't understand why a number of people think they need to convert an existing building to build a dark ride. When a dark ride comes in, it would make more sense to put it in a new, purpose built building that can properly accommodate the ride. The Coliseum would be an especially poor choice because of all the vertical columns.

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noggin

Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:03 PM
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Exactly, Pete. It would be possible to put a dark ride in the Coliseum, sure. But having to build around those columns would force the layout into a static grid, and the columns would hamper the space available to install the ride elements.

Millennium Island would be a good place for a custom built dark ride building, though I expect the dinosaurs aren't going to go anywhere as long as they make money.


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cple_engineer

Thursday, October 15, 2015 8:52 PM

There are several events that most people do not realize occur in the ballroom. For example, park-op on-boarding and training are in the ballroom in the spring. Park-op and live-e also have offices on the second floor. Additionally almost the whole ballroom space is used for screamsters to get their makeup and costumes on.

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PyroKinesis09

Thursday, October 15, 2015 9:29 PM
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Speaking of the ballroom, is it open to the public? Can you rent it out?

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Dutchman

Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:13 PM

They did for a while. I believe that they had to stop doing that because it's not ADA compliant. Apparently they didn't make enough off the venue rental to justify installing multiple elevators that would be required to bring it up to spec.

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noggin

Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:47 PM
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Which, as I've said elsewhere, is a shame. It's a beautiful space.

But I can see how it would be a difficult space to sell even if it were ADA compliant.

Oddball fact: in the early years of the last century, Cedar Point bottled its own soda pop with machinery installed in a room in the Coliseum.


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CoasterKyle1121

Thursday, October 15, 2015 11:53 PM
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Well, I can see this thread closing in 3....2....1....


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CP Maverick

Thursday, October 15, 2015 11:56 PM

CoasterKyle1121 said:

Well, I can see this thread closing in 3....2....1....

I don't see anything but harmless speculation at this point. Do you see any other reason to close it?

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cple_engineer

Friday, October 16, 2015 1:11 AM

There is an elevator on the Planet Snoopy side of the building to get up to the ballroom. It is similar to the elevators used on some of the coasters to get up to the platform.


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