CP_genius
Wednesday, January 12, 2000 7:49 PM
Okay, I was looking at the 1985 CP map and there appears to be an alternate railroad. It goes throught the midway leading into Frontier Town. Does anyone know what this was used for?
cheeseonastick
Wednesday, January 12, 2000 8:00 PM
Are you talking next to where Red Garter Saloon is? or by Gemini?
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ShiveringTim
Wednesday, January 12, 2000 11:49 PM
Sounds like you are talking about Cedar Junction (current location of the MF crossover). I believe in the old days it was used for turning the trains around. Oh Dave A.?
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cheeseonastick
Thursday, January 13, 2000 1:21 AM
That could be it too. Always wondered about that.
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Western Cruiser
Thursday, January 13, 2000 1:00 PM
There used to be a "siding" (I'm not a railroad person, so I don't know the technical terms) that ran from the "main line" across Frontier Trail, from the Bay side of the railroad track (near where you _used_ to enter the trees on your way to Frontier Town) across the trail, to Cedar Junction (where the caboose sits), to the "main" line behind Cedar Junction (where the Boneville characters are working on a hand car, singing _I've Been Workin' on the Railroad_.
RideMan
Thursday, January 13, 2000 4:58 PM
I'm not old enough to remember when the railroad came all the way out to the end of the lagoons. I also do not remember a crossing in the Frontier Trail. My guess is that it might have been a siding before the Frontier Trail was constructed, with the track removed to make way for the Frontier Trail? Perhaps Pete Babic knows...
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Pete
Thursday, January 13, 2000 10:24 PM
Well, I know that the Cedar Junction station was a part of the trail since day one. For the life of me I can't remember if that track was ever used to turn trains before the Frontier Trail was built. Since the railroad always ran only in the direction it does now, the only reason I can think of to turn trains would be to get the engine the enter the engine house front first. I know that passengers never rode on that track. When the Frontier Trail first opened the caboose at Cedar Junction was open for inspection. It was really fun to enter it and pretend you were working on a train.
Jeff
Thursday, January 13, 2000 11:43 PM
I seem to remember, perhaps incorrectly, track that crossed the trail. However, if the memory is real, it was clearly never used for anything other than for show.
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Sprint Car
Friday, January 14, 2000 12:51 AM
Before Frontiertown was built the train station was located about where Dodgem2 and the IMAX theater are. The track that used to cross the trail by Cedar Junction Depot was used for the return part of the trip. The outgoing and inbound tracks were side by side in the area by the current engine house.
Pete
Friday, January 14, 2000 1:30 AM
If that was the case, did they move the burning hotel to its present location from someplace else? If the Cedar Junction track was the old return track, the train would not have gone past the burning hotel.
Tim
Friday, January 14, 2000 11:03 AM
I wish my memories of this were more clear, but I think Sprint Car has got it. The scenes along the train ride evolved as that part of the park developed. As I remember there are now fewer scenes than there used to be and some are in different places.
Chief Wahoo
Saturday, January 15, 2000 8:33 AM
Going way back...
Guest use to be able to ride a train that dropped them off right in front of Hotel Breakers. Don't know when that last was but I have seen old pictures of it.
ANDREW
Saturday, January 15, 2000 11:03 AM
There is a side track for the Cedar Juction cabose.