CB Cyclone+GCI+CP

Ok, I just go the "Legends of Terror" book for x-mas, and I came up with this...

Since there isn't enough information and blueprints on the CP cyclone, it would be silly to try and replicate it. It also wouldn't live up to today's standards and it wouldn't make the park any money. The Crystal Beach cyclone, on the other hand has many pictures to go by, and would still live up to today's standards. Now, Cedar Point should rebuild the Crystal Beach cylone using GCI and their wonderful Millennium Flyers. If they did that, coaster enthusiasts from all over the world would flock to Cedar Point just for the historical value, therefore increasing attendence without building a record-breaker!

So, what do you think?

Was this the coaster that had the very highly banked turns and was so extreme that it had a full time nurse on hand since people got sick so often?

I like the idea. I'd worry that Cedar Point wouldn't be able to build the Crystal Beach Cyclone without making significant changes to the ride to be compliant with contemporary laws and regulations, though.

Honestly I think CP would rather move foward instead of backwords...Build the new wooden CP (add ride name here) instead of building a classic coaster from the past. Remember some things are better off left in the past. Stories about how a ride was tend to grow taller and taller as the decades go by. (like CB Cyclone)

I like the idea. I think they should do it.

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Feel the Force! *** This post was edited by Coaster guy2000 on 12/29/2000. ***

The CB Cylone was an extreemly dangerous coaster that cuased many injurys including whiplash. That was the reason for it to be torn down in the first place. The CBC was indeed the coaster with the full time nurse at the loading platform.

Now if they did a ride simalar to it, but not as dangerous, and that would actualy be fun to ride, then it would be awsome.

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If she weighs as much as a duck, she's made of wood, and therefore a witch.

uh, actually, you're wrong there...

according to the book, the Crystal Beach Cyclone was torn down because it was a maintinance nightmare. It ran for a good (?) years with only one fatality. The only reason they had a nurse there was for passengers that fainted. It even goes on to say the nurse became more of a novelty in later years.

I understand that CP couldn't rebuild it exactly, but GCI loves twisted layouts. Coasters like the CB cyclone is exactly what GCI strives for. If they could just put in all the wicked helices and maybe a hint of those trick tracks and rabbit hops found at the end of the ride, there's no reason why the CB cyclone couldn't be reincarnated as a thrilling ride even today. *** This post was edited by CPcyclone on 12/29/2000. ***

Thats what I always read about the CB Cyclone, that the nurse on site was pretty much for show during the CB Cyclone final years. I think that you'd see a new type of wooden coaster before you'd see a remake of one. It ruins the coaster history if someone rides it today and doesn't find it thrilling. Sometimes things are better off left in the past.

Personally, I'd rather have a CCI than a GCI.

I have been reading this site for about a year and want to commend Jeff for this outstanding site!!
With regard to the Crystal Beach Cyclone, here is why CP would not build anything that was close to that ride:
1. They could only run 1 train at a time due to no place to put block brakes and a short brake run. And the trains were only 20 passenger capacity. I doubt they could be any longer due to the different forces in the front and back due to the longer train.
2. Many people were seriously injured on this ride. Broken collar bones and broken arms were not just myth, they happened due to the incredibly violent changes in direction.
3. 3 Traver Cyclones were built. Those at Palisades and Revere Beach didn't last 10 years due to lack of ridership. The only reason Crystal Beach's made it till the 40's was being a smaller park, they could not afford to do anything drastic for a while.
4. Maintenance was a nightmare, not only the track, but the structure as well. There are documented instances of welded rivets flying off the structure due to the extreme forces in the curves.
5. The pacing of the overall ride was poor. It would be extremely fast in parts, and very slow in others. To the point that winches had to be installed to help out stalled trains.
In short, these rides were engineering failures. If CP wanted that, they could build Son Of Beast. If anyone would like to read further on this, there is an excellent article in Coaster World (pre-Roller Coaster magazine)issue IV, Volume 3 (Fall 1983) by Joe Heflin that outlines the failure of the Traver Cyclones.
(sorry so long)

Idora Wildcat
*** This post was edited by Idora Wildcat on 1/3/2001. ***

That's very true. But they wouldn't replicate it exactly. I'm sure they would modify it to today's standards. There are plenty of twisters out there.